Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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I ddn't say that the Pro Trans cases broke, or at least I didnt mean to say that. We hear they are good, but heavy so that is why we went to a stout 904.
We have the Moser 8 3/4 which I hear is a really 9" Ford with a mopar flange but NHRA approved.
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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Protrans' come either way 904 or 727 case, we run both, no difference between the two. Mike
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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Went to your site. Interesting build you have going on there, but whats this about the pistons.
Got some other goodies ordered and learned some interesting info out, some good some bad, the piston issue still has me a bit wound up.
Jerry Williams.
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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someone was worried that they had illegal pistons, because the numbers weren't stamped on the top
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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Chris (drooze) posted the info here (ooops he will post here..) on the issues with pistons..... He has been talking to Bruce B at NHRA and knows the issues involved. It is not just an issue of a stamping a "magic number" on the pistons.
David
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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Lol...I did a double take on that pics for a second, my first reaction was OH CRAP Someone has been in our shop and took a pic ! Oh....that was me, and you just posted it for clarity, but it threw me. The ProTrans, and I did talk to Dave directly a couple times, the real issue for us wasnt the quality or the cost, but turnaround time and our availability of spares in a bind. His lead time on it was greater than our pretty agressive schedule. Were talking about tracking the car 45 days from the time we got it back to our shop. So we opted for a lightened 904 alloy except the sunshell, and we have 2 of those coming, they just take a while to make. Should have it by Pomona....well see....noone is sure how one will hold up in this application so Im a little leary to run it there on the 6.1 Nothing bad about em, I even forgot until today why we didnt go with one.....our 904 in a auto car should be fine. And it was set up by the guy who built our valve body so I know its right for that and there are some tranny mods needed done for that. But also costing , the ProTrans is worth it but for 5k and some change I can carry 2 904's and have a hot spare. The 8 3/4 well with the Moser case its a bit beefier, well a lot beefier, it actually cost $200 more than a 60 from Mike with moly tubes.....it will weigh about 15 pounds less at a minimum than an aftermarket 60 with moly tubes. With an aftermarket 489 nodular case we have, 35 spline axles, and an alloy strange spool (we bought the last 2 they made well over a year ago....dont know if theyre going to produce more or not but we bought the last 2 they had, lightened 4.86 pro gears, on this we can carry a spare chunk with a 2 tenths variance 4.88 in a treated gear. Its got billet caps and adjusters, dosent scare me in an auto car in the least, its very very nice. An 8 3/4 is MUCH easier to fix fast trackside with a spare chunk, than a 60 at least for me. Im not worried about the rear end or the trans. are they BULLETPROOF ? No....not by any stretch, are they light, hell yes, are they adequate ? I hope so, granted a ProTrans is probably a couple hundreths faster, and stronger, and....heavier, not much but these cars are fat as it is. So everything counts. We could build it bulletproof and heavier, and slower and never break a thing, or we could run it light and fast and expect breakage, but we expect it are prepared for it and hope to run fast because of it. (the old man just chimed in not the breakage of course The weight Cheers Chris
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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After the phone bills of the last 3 months I cant imagine wed notice.....500$ a MONTH, all the distance calls on the car parts this and that related....ouch.....
Itll be back to normal soon....lol.
500.00 bucks your lucky
Try 3800.00 every month
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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3800 in PHONE BILLS ?!?!?!?!?! Multiple lines/business account ?
Wow....no matter how horrible you think something is it can always be worse.....ugh
Oh how true you don't know.my guess is that you were not a member here to witness Jimmy's Dart in it's first build that went up in a ball of flames before it's first pass. What you see in his sig is the second version just completed last week
YES it sucked Fred oh and by the way maybe that's why my bill is so much DARN collect calls
Yes Drooze it is our company plan but still is a SH!tt load of coin . and so is the car.
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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Ouch......all I can say is.....Ouch......I once had a car burn......its been 20 years and it still makes me sick...... And yeah 3 months of that Coin and I could finsh ALL my other projects Ouch....
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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Chris, I just finished reading your daily blog. BTW, Thanks for all your helpfull tips yesterday. You and your Dad are the best.
Jerry Williams.
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Re: Challenger Drag Pak #24 gettin ready to race in January
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Well, after a variety of "not fun" experiences, like roaching a motor, and following that up with an exhaust valve tapping a piston, and fluids leaking from everywhere that there were fluids, we finally got the car all buttoned up and took Drag Pak #24 down the strip.. A strong shakedown cruise with no ET slip. That was interntional as we didn't want to set any expectations on the run. And we had our shift point low, and really wanted to make sure that it would go fast and stop fast. Task accomplished! It runs good, and stops fine. Nothing leaked and nothing broke. Now on to Atlanta (which is were we were last Saturday for our first run) and I will be driving it in A/SA God willing... Drooze will be wrenching and I will be driving at Atlanta. This is based on two facts of life. One, he is better than I am on mechanical side. This is partly because I am old and frail and can't get enough leverage to even torque the heads. (Or at least that is what I tell Drooze. I am 64 and have wrenched enough cars, having started when I was 8, so although I can't say it isn't fun, it isn't as much fun as it used to be.) and I can still cut a pretty good light. So, we will be at the track on Thursday, and finally put this puppy through it's paces. Oh, and if you want to see what it looks like now with our wrap, check the blog at http://newhemiracing.blogspot.comDavid The New Hemi Guy
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