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Re: Lets talk about Darrell Alderman
[Re: Thumperdart]
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05/01/10 12:53 AM
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I liked Scott and Darrell. Both nice guys and fun at the track.
I had a great friend who worked with the team in the period before, during, and after the "Break In". I've known this person to be a straight shooter and honest and not a gossip. It was told to me in logical detail that the whole thing was very complicated and involved some politics, sponsorship concerns, all regarding the use of NOS. When you consider their fall from domination, and that the engines destroyed happened to be the only engines apparantly that could make the big power, THE ONLY LOGICAL CONCLUSION IS THEY must have been forged by the legendary maker of Excaliber, or come from outer space. There are a lot of strong, but circumstantial things that make the whole break in and following failure to recover or even qualify VERY suspect, to put it kindly.
I won't go into the details, or who the person was that told me, but I was told about some of these possible infractions before the "break in", and was told much more after the break in.
I hold the person who told me this to be in good standing, and is not one to exagerate or BS.
I know what I believe, but also think it's better to let this one RIP.
There are a couple of locals who are in the know, and we should sit down and go over the time frame again while it's still fairly fresh in all our minds, and swap some stories over a beer for laughs.
Sadly, some die hards will never allow themselves to believe that the Wayne County guys would ever do anything like this, and will stand by the "prove it to me, they weren't convicted," etc.. It was all supposed to go down more discreetly than that.
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Re: Lets talk about Darrell Alderman
[Re: 63CandyMatic]
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05/01/10 12:59 AM
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I liked Scott and Darrell. Both nice guys and fun at the track.
I had a great friend who worked with the team in the period before, during, and after the "Break In". I've known this person to be a straight shooter and honest and not a gossip. It was told to me in logical detail that the whole thing was very complicated and involved some politics, sponsorship concerns, all regarding the use of NOS. When you consider their fall from domination, and that the engines destroyed happened to be the only engines apparantly that could make the big power, THE ONLY LOGICAL CONCLUSION IS THEY must have been forged by the legendary maker of Excaliber, or come from outer space. There are a lot of strong, but circumstantial things that make the whole break in and following failure to recover or even qualify VERY suspect, to put it kindly.
I won't go into the details, or who the person was that told me, but I was told about some of these possible infractions before the "break in", and was told much more after the break in.
I hold the person who told me this to be in good standing, and is not one to exagerate or BS.
I know what I believe, but also think it's better to let this one RIP.
There are a couple of locals who are in the know, and we should sit down and go over the time frame again while it's still fairly fresh in all our minds, and swap some stories over a beer for laughs.
Sadly, some die hards will never allow themselves to believe that the Wayne County guys would ever do anything like this, and will stand by the "prove it to me, they weren't convicted," etc.. It was all supposed to go down more discreetly than that.
I can live with this stuff.......people cheat I CAN`T live with the "holier than thou" goobers who pass judgement as if they`re perfect.......you`re not nor am I and I`ll defend what I believe to the death. I`m done w/this and mad at myself for even opening this can of worms.
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05/01/10 03:42 AM
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Re: Lets talk about Darrell Alderman
[Re: SCDaytona]
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05/01/10 07:42 AM
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few realize that there was no rule in the book that year regarding Nitrous in Pro Stock. NHRA blunder ???
I agree...IMHO too many are quick to say "cheating". In many instances if you peel it back further, we'd probably find more situations are resultant of rule interpretation, capitalizing on what's NOT implied in a rule vs. what is implied. And lastly being inovative.
As an example; I think it was the late Gary Ormsby who had "The Terrible Towell": He simply placed a hand towell over his go-pedal throughout the season and the competition went absolutely nuts, got angry, demanded action. This gained enough momentum that the competition demanded NHRA inspect the go-pedal and the throttle design to insure Gary wasn't cheating. Turns out it was nothing more than one of the greatest psychological play's in NHRA history.  Gary trumped his competition psychologically...is that cheating too? 
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Re: Lets talk about Darrell Alderman
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05/01/10 11:26 AM
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My S&M Duster has all the hardware for belly pans but I never saw any pictures with them on the car ? I asked Dave Christie and Herb what the deal was regarding them and did they work out OK.. They broke out in laughter and I asked why ? they only put the belly pans on the car to distract the tech guys and get some other sneaky trick past them. it worked . tech crew was so involved in a ruling they never got any further that day on the car. whatever they did passed tech
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Re: Lets talk about Darrell Alderman
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05/01/10 01:27 PM
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Do you know what WC Fields said when he was caught reading the Bible? "I'm looking for loopholes" The NHRA rulebook (Any rulebook really) should be read in the same way... 
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Re: Lets talk about Darrell Alderman
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05/01/10 03:05 PM
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few realize that there was no rule in the book that year regarding Nitrous in Pro Stock. NHRA blunder ???
True, but it was "entirely understood" that it was taboo. So universally recognized that no one, (almost no one) would admit to using it, and the teams went to remarkable lengths to hide it.
NHRA not having the specific rule and verbage in the rulebook for NOS in that class is like your employee handbook not specifically listing animal husbandry as forbidden in your company's office. It's a given, you should know better, and both will get you terminated. LOL
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Re: Lets talk about Darrell Alderman
[Re: 63CandyMatic]
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05/01/10 04:12 PM
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few realize that there was no rule in the book that year regarding Nitrous in Pro Stock. NHRA blunder ???
True, but it was "entirely understood" that it was taboo. So universally recognized that no one, (almost no one) would admit to using it, and the teams went to remarkable lengths to hide it.
NHRA not having the specific rule and verbage in the rulebook for NOS in that class is like your employee handbook not specifically listing animal husbandry as forbidden in your company's office. It's a given, you should know better, and both will get you terminated. LOL
I have to call that BS along with the hear say evidence you posted. if it's not against the rules it's legal.
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on another thread here, and my reply was CENSORED, and removed, on the chance that someone might be offended. then I see this 
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