Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: ben1692]
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12/07/09 04:33 PM
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Nope,
We ran that stuff in our late model small block, 8000+ rpm and we found oil psi spikes, drops, very uneven stuff. Our pan holds a LOT of oil, 10 qt with a kick out in it, we found that stuff foammed up terribly, we ran VR1 race oil with 2 qts of lucas. They told up the ratio we were using. Well we tried to just run brad penn, no more issues...
Kasey
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: B G Racing]
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12/07/09 07:12 PM
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We use it as a final pour on lube for the cam and lifters after the engine is assembled,especuially if it is not going to be fired soon.
with BG, lucas oil tratment is sticky and has to lubricate and coat everything, did u ever feel that stuff on your fingers.
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
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12/07/09 09:17 PM
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We use it as a final pour on lube for the cam and lifters after the engine is assembled,especuially if it is not going to be fired soon.
with BG, lucas oil tratment is sticky and has to lubricate and coat everything, did u ever feel that stuff on your fingers.
It is very sticky and it clings to the cam and lifters for a long time much like STP.We pour a generious amount on the cam and lifters and around the lifter bores as well as the tips of the rockers and pushrods,Some of our engines sit for months and some are shipped abroad.
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: B G Racing]
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12/07/09 11:04 PM
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We use it as a final pour on lube for the cam and lifters after the engine is assembled,especuially if it is not going to be fired soon.
with BG, lucas oil tratment is sticky and has to lubricate and coat everything, did u ever feel that stuff on your fingers.
It is very sticky and it clings to the cam and lifters for a long time much like STP.We pour a generious amount on the cam and lifters and around the lifter bores as well as the tips of the rockers and pushrods,Some of our engines sit for months and some are shipped abroad.
I do the same thing in the valvetrain even after soaking lifters in a large coffee bucket.Coat the rocker shafts,tips,cam,,but BG,I have a question fer ya???????What "broad" are ya shippin to??
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
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12/07/09 11:28 PM
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Lucas has a dislpay in the store that has 2 compartments, each with a series of plastic gears run by a hand crank. One compartment has straight motor oil, the other has Lucas fortified oil. When you crank the lucas setup, the oil clings to the gears and climbs up to the top gear much more readily than the straight oil set up. I figure I don't need oil clinging to the crankshaft and other parts, I need it to easily shed from the rotating assembly and get back into the pan. So I don't use Lucas oil treatment in my race moter.
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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12/07/09 11:50 PM
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I ran a little in my Getrag 5 speed behind my Cummins. I changed the oil, added the Lucas Oil treatment, to the specified oil for the trans. After that the trans shifted horribly, and was far more noisy. I ran it a while like that and it did not get better. I drained out the oil and as much Lucas as I could get out of it. I then refilled it with specified oil and ran the trans went back to shifting nice, and no more noise. Ran it a long time with lots of heavy loads, lots of tire chirping, speed shifts and such before the output shaft bearing finally became pitted and noisy.
I've since rebuilt it with new bearings, and filled it with synthetic oil, and had great service.
No Lucas for me.....
Michael
93 W250 CTD getrag, Bosch 185 injectors, AFE air filter. Trailer puller, daily driver, 90 W250 CTD 727 with smokin 5" stacks. Off road truck
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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12/08/09 08:44 AM
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Lucas has a dislpay in the store that has 2 compartments, each with a series of plastic gears run by a hand crank. One compartment has straight motor oil, the other has Lucas fortified oil. When you crank the lucas setup, the oil clings to the gears and climbs up to the top gear much more readily than the straight oil set up.
I figure I don't need oil clinging to the crankshaft and other parts, I need it to easily shed from the rotating assembly and get back into the pan. So I don't use Lucas oil treatment in my race moter.
that was my feeling too. You want oil to lubricate using a thin boundary layer of oil- not a think heavy coating that will add weight and slow rotating components. you want the thiunnest oil possible that will still lubricate at the worst extreme that you run
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: slippery440]
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12/08/09 11:26 AM
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We used it at the shop.Some cars we used it in were pretty bad and customer wanted to get a little more time or eliminate soem noise.It worked in quite a few of them.Use it in my cars also.Never any problems.Rocky
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: therocks]
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12/08/09 11:43 AM
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Ok , the stuff is sticky, but wouldn't thicker oil do somewhat the same thing as lucas? I have never had any issues with normal oil. Yeah I have had lifter ticks and ran thicker oil and that magically fixed it or was a temp. bandaid. Sorry but I just still don't believe in oil additives.
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: MMiller]
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12/08/09 02:39 PM
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I ran a little in my Getrag 5 speed behind my Cummins. I changed the oil, added the Lucas Oil treatment, to the specified oil for the trans. After that the trans shifted horribly, and was far more noisy. I ran it a while like that and it did not get better. I drained out the oil and as much Lucas as I could get out of it. I then refilled it with specified oil and ran the trans went back to shifting nice, and no more noise. Ran it a long time with lots of heavy loads, lots of tire chirping, speed shifts and such before the output shaft bearing finally became pitted and noisy.
I've since rebuilt it with new bearings, and filled it with synthetic oil, and had great service.
No Lucas for me.....
Michael
I did the same with my Old Toyota 4x4. While it did reduce some noise it was a bear to shift when cold. In the winter I would put the transfercase in nuetral and leave the trans in gear when I warmed it up. That way It was tollerable to shift it lol.
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: Bad340fish]
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12/08/09 03:07 PM
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I don't use their oil treatment or much of anything else they sell but have tried their assembly lube on a couple motors lately, and it seems pretty good, I sort of like it. It seems to work about as well as the old standby Clevite bearing guard, and seems to stick/cling to parts maybe a little bit more. Quote:
Lucas Oil's Assembly Lube is designed to be an initial lubricant to metal surfaces. Apply to critical engine surfaces before assembly in order to prevent metal to metal contact, upon startup, before adequate lubrication is supplied. Will mix with any oil and will not plug filters. This product clings to all surfaces and is an excellent rust inhibitor, allowing long term storage for all parts. It is useful wherever tension or torque is applied. Contains Zinc, Moly, and other extreme pressure additives. Perfect for engine building or any assembly.
http://lucasoil.hodgsoncorp.com/catalog/...amp;x=5&y=6
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Re: lucas oil treatment? any one else
[Re: MMiller]
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12/08/09 10:38 PM
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I ran a little in my Getrag 5 speed behind my Cummins. I changed the oil, added the Lucas Oil treatment, to the specified oil for the trans. After that the trans shifted horribly, and was far more noisy. I ran it a while like that and it did not get better. I drained out the oil and as much Lucas as I could get out of it. I then refilled it with specified oil and ran the trans went back to shifting nice, and no more noise. Ran it a long time with lots of heavy loads, lots of tire chirping, speed shifts and such before the output shaft bearing finally became pitted and noisy.
I've since rebuilt it with new bearings, and filled it with synthetic oil, and had great service.
No Lucas for me.....
Michael
I run RedLine MT90 and MTL 50-50 mix in my NV4500 and ran the same in my previous Cummins, 93 W350
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