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tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler #546480
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1970 e body challenger 426 hemi stock with power
Steering --- headers installed with motor ...now trying to install steering column ... and headers hit steering coupler when turning ?? any help

1970 clone hemi convertible with ps and pb

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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: hyefatman] #546481
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Actually borgsen makes a thinner u-joint that would clear that header. But it requires to make it work.


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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: moparpollack] #546482
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That's one of the things that TTI fails to tell you. Are your motor mounts old? If so the engine is sitting lower than if you had fresh mounts. Quick fix, change the mounts and get a u joint from Flaming River.

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: dart4forte] #546483
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Sometimes you have no choice but to use the Borsen joint, which is actually better than the stock knuckle,...if a stock look is what your after, then your going to have to play with the motor mounts, some shimming might help, loosen the box to see if you can "move" it some, or break out the dremel, and elongate the holes to move the box over, or remove and "dimple" the header tube, I've used a peice of oak dowel to place on the offending tube, then hammered the oak, puts a nice "dimple" in the tube without busting up the coating, do this with the header removed and supported

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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: hyefatman] #546484
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What motor mounts are you using?

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: DAYCLONA] #546485
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i put ttis on my hemi cuda they fell into place but box was in car then motor went in then tubes no dimples no hammering

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: DAYCLONA] #546486
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should be all stock motor mounts
all new stuff with newcoms hemi k frame
i was told i would have ZERO clearance issues
can not wait to call TTI on monday

do you know what part # i need to buy-
do i just get rid of the stock steering
coupler and go with after market

it also looks like the header is just touching the
steering box --do i take a hammer to it

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: hyefatman] #546487
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If Newcombs k frame isn't any better than the kickdown linkage I got from him, that may be where the problem is. I'd shim the motor mount before I went to beating on the headers. You might get a fraction of an inch by loosening the steering column bolts at the firewall, and moving it as far towards the left as possible. The Flaming River coupler is a nice piece, if you end up needing it. Good luck

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Flaming River has a coupling that I used. Its not as big as the stock piece and will fit manual or power steering. It worked for me, but my set up is a little different than yours. I have: 73 Challenger, stock k-frame (318 car), 426 hemi crate motor, manual steering, schumacher motor mounts, and TTI headers.

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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: bobbyb] #546489
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i still do not understand how tti can sell a perfect
fit product and it does not work - based on the picture and replys it seems a lot of people have the same problems -

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: hyefatman] #546490
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I'm still recovering from installing headers on my Plymouth. I have to have15 hours in doing them outside on the ground.I had to heat and bend them toget the bolt flanges to line up Impossible to get a bolt on the 7 cylinder, A set of headerson my A body was the same way but only took 8 hours on the ground.According to the instructions this is not needed RIGHT!!!!

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: hyefatman] #546491
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i still do not understand how tti can sell a perfect
fit product and it does not work - based on the picture and replys it seems a lot of people have the same problems -




Probably cuz they're not using stock pieces, just like your K-frame.

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if you are using the pad style motor mounts you can shim the mount. schumacher headers actually come with them, maybe they can sell you just the shims.


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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: 340duster340] #546493
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what i have seen is that we used spacers on the inside of gear box to frame bolts
to offset it for clearance
then losen the bolts on the colum inside
and slide it over ever so much
this will work!
do you see it?no feel it?
no!!
just a thought (cheap fix)

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: dennismopar73] #546494
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what i have seen is that we used spacers on the inside of gear box to frame bolts
to offset it for clearance
then losen the bolts on the colum inside
and slide it over ever so much
this will work!
do you see it?no feel it?
no!!
just a thought (cheap fix)




i had to do that, shim the gear box back, to get my 2 1/4" big tube TTI headers to my power steering box. i have schumacher mounts on a stock 400 K member. 72 B body, stage 5 hemi heads, 572 hemi.
i also had clearance problems with the hemi power brake booster hitting the cast valve covers under harder acceleration. so i shimmed the K member down 1/4".


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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: CokeBottleKid] #546495
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i still do not understand how tti can sell a perfect
fit product and it does not work - based on the picture and replys it seems a lot of people have the same problems -




Probably cuz they're not using stock pieces, just like your K-frame.






Don't blame TTI, things have to be moved around to make big tube headers fit. Your car is not stock.

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: hyefatman] #546496
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i still do not understand how tti can sell a perfect
fit product and it does not work - based on the picture and replys it seems a lot of people have the same problems -




In a perfect world they would drop in as claimed , but this isn't a perfect world , I'll use the excuse a certian company used about their NO HACK install .... PRODUCTION TOLERANCES ... plus you have a REPOP K frame . I'll bet TTi blames it on the K ...

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: 340duster340] #546497
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if you are using the pad style motor mounts you can shim the mount. schumacher headers actually come with them, maybe they can sell you just the shims.




Yes they sell the shims separately , I bought a set a couple years ago to make up the difference for what they were selling as a factory big block A body replacement mount that was thinner than the stock mount .

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They sell headers that fit all the perfectly stock spec frames. As you know, all cars do not fit stock specs exactly. My car is an A body and I have had 1 5/8 and 1 3/4" headers for SB heads and 1 3/4" for W2 heads. Mine fit as spec'd. The problem is "Is the frame and mounts EXACTLY as speced?" A frame shop can tell you. My cousin worked in a body shop as a mechanic. Most cars do not match factory specs. Even the ones that had not been in an accident.

Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler [Re: dart4forte] #546499
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That's one of the things that TTI fails to tell you. Are your motor mounts old? If so the engine is sitting lower than if you had fresh mounts. Quick fix, change the mounts and get a u joint from Flaming River.




i'd also like to add that if you end up using the Flaming River joint you may have to maching it down a bit. if you think you are having problems try putting the TTI's in an early a-body.

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