Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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I do it the easy way I don't balance them
tried both ways,no diff,
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/29/09 10:52 AM
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I've used this on out of balance truck tires and can tell you it definitely works in that application.
You need a shielded valve stem to keep the media from getting in the valve, and it does make a mess when you pull it apart.
I dont think I would use it on a race car slick. But thats not to say it wouldn't work.
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/29/09 01:37 PM
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I do it the easy way I don't balance them
Why would you need balanced slicks when all you do is explode pinions anyway? I can't see why it wouldn't work in a tube when it can be injected in a valve stem.
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/29/09 02:05 PM
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I do it the easy way I don't balance them
Why would you need balanced slicks when all you do is explode pinions anyway? I can't see why it wouldn't work in a tube when it can be injected in a valve stem.
no more exploding rears. O threw the 83/4s in the trash where they belong
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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We run tubes in the Phoenix's and I quit balancing years ago.Made no difference.
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/29/09 02:15 PM
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We run tubes in the Phoenix's and I quit balancing years ago.Made no difference.
yep same here. I have had one set of slicks over the years that gave us a problem. a good set shouldn't need balancing.
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/29/09 02:24 PM
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I have used this in jeep tires with good luck. I currently have my spare on the front of my jeep and its got 1000 airsoft pelets in it and it works great.
I don't know how well it would work in a slick application. Since they grow and change so much during a run it might cause problems.
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/29/09 03:43 PM
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I do it the easy way I don't balance them
I read the great debate threads and went this way as well. No issue at all.
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/29/09 04:20 PM
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The next time any of you non-balance guys are at an event where any of the major slick manus have a truck stop and ask them if they recommend slick balancing. If you don't believe what they tell you then get some shock sensors from Racepak and look at the data you retrieve from them. See if this changes your mind.
Bob you are probably right, but at our level of bracket racing I doubt it make any difference. you make a ton more power than we do. I know for a fact it doesn't make any difference in et or 60'. we have had them balanced before and pulled the weights off. made no difference at all
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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I quit balancing years ago. Had no issues for a long time. Then I got a set of slicks that caused a noticeable shake in shutdown. Was in a pinch and wondered which tire was the problem. Called my shock manufacturer on the phone about something else and the subject came up. He said crawl under the car after making a pass and put your hand on each shock. Guess what one shock was noticeably warmer than the other. That tire was out of balance pretty bad. The other didn't hardly need any weight to zero out.
What warms the shock up? I can answer that. When a shock gets worked the fluid is forced to pass through restricters. The more it is worked the hotter the fluid becomes.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/29/09 07:39 PM
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I quit balancing years ago. Had no issues for a long time. Then I got a set of slicks that caused a noticeable shake in shutdown. Was in a pinch and wondered which tire was the problem. Called my shock manufacturer on the phone about something else and the subject came up. He said crawl under the car after making a pass and put your hand on each shock. Guess what one shock was noticeably warmer than the other. That tire was out of balance pretty bad. The other didn't hardly need any weight to zero out.
What warms the shock up? I can answer that. When a shock gets worked the fluid is forced to pass through restricters. The more it is worked the hotter the fluid becomes.
Exactly right. As is this.
"But it does make a positive difference not only in ET & MPH, but in the life of related components, even if it's just a little bit."
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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So, why do you balance the wheels/tires on your truck, but not on your race car that runs maybe 3 times as fast? You put a 4 or $500 set of tires on, but won't spend 10 or 15 bucks for balancing? Even using a bubble machine is better than nothing. I would balance the tires when new, sometimes they only take an ounce or so, sometimes quite a bit more. At about 50 or 60 runs, I take 'em off and rebalance them. Always made a difference for me.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: A new way for slick balancing?
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11/30/09 12:32 AM
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Semi-trucks blow tires all the time, I see tire pieces on the highway every day. Where do all those beads go when that happens?
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