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Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? #536035
11/24/09 10:33 PM
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Ordered a rebuild kit from Brewers and it came today, opened the box to find bearings "made in China". Should I use them or send the kit back?

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: 69MOPE] #536036
11/24/09 10:38 PM
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Wayne knows his stuff, If he did'nt trust it then you would have never recieved it.

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: wheelsup68dart] #536037
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No one makes a 308SG8 Brg in the USA anymore. There are several mfg of the Chinese brgs, I have had zero problems with the ones we sell. It sucks I know, I made offers to several mfg's to buy very large qty here in the states.


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Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: Dan Brewer] #536038
11/25/09 09:44 AM
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No one makes a 308SG8 Brg in the USA anymore. There are several mfg of the Chinese brgs, I have had zero problems with the ones we sell. It sucks I know, I made offers to several mfg's to buy very large qty here in the states.




But how long have they been in service ???

Chinese bearings scare me. I needed new bearings for my billet MSD , the ones I got were chinese, I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy using them .

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: 69MOPE] #536039
11/25/09 11:04 AM
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If you can find a Japanese made Bower/BCA, SKS or European Timken bearing I'd take those over any chinese bearing. Years back I installed chinese wheel bearings on an a body and they wore out ridiculously fast. They just did not get the hardness treatment correct on the rollers. I'll never use another chinese bearing again.

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: JohnRR] #536040
11/25/09 11:15 AM
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I needed new bearings for my billet MSD , the ones I got were chinese, I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy using them




Kinda makes you wonder about the quality of the original bearings doesn't it ?!?! Considering these turn at half the speed of the crank and the load on them is virtually nothing !!!

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: Stanton] #536041
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I needed new bearings for my billet MSD , the ones I got were chinese, I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy using them




Kinda makes you wonder about the quality of the original bearings doesn't it ?!?! Considering these turn at half the speed of the crank and the load on them is virtually nothing !!!




No kidding , no country of origin on them and the one that went bad was the one at the top , the one in the bottom , oil splashed , isn't crunchy like the top.

There isn't any other source now for 308SG , a standard 308 is not the correct width , maybe a spacer could be made so a standard 308 could be used ???

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: 69MOPE] #536042
11/25/09 12:31 PM
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opened the box to find bearings "made in China".




What a damn shame. Its disgusting what this country has come to


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Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: 69L78Nova] #536043
11/25/09 10:17 PM
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Alot of junk is "Made in China" Mostly found at the dollar store and Walmart. Is this China's fault, no. It's the consumer who buys it. You buy, they make.

Four dollar Christmas toys and bearings are not in the same catagory. They only thing they share is the country they are assembled in.

As for the bearings. I work on high speed lamp making equipment. This stuff is running 24 hours, 6 days a week. 90% of the bearings we use are McGard, Made in China. Some of the machine is cooled by AC, some of it is 900deg F. These bearings never fail.


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Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: 69MOPE] #536044
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NEVER use a China bearing!!!

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Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? #536046
11/26/09 02:32 AM
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I fully understand everyone's distaste for chinese bearings but....I have known the Brewer's for many years, Wayne and Dan are two of the best guys in the business to deal with, if they believe these bearings would work I believe them. I can only imagine Waynes frustration with this issue but he is not big enough of a company to push the issue with the bearing makers. Don't you just love these cockroaches that decide to outsource everything.
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Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: jake4cars] #536047
11/26/09 03:42 AM
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I wonder where the worlds largest military buys their bearings?

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: 69MOPE] #536048
11/26/09 08:12 AM
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I met Wayne about a month ago when I bought a '65 727 from him. I got the impression that if he had a choice, he would have all American made parts. Seemed like an up front guy to me.


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Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: Snoopy] #536049
11/26/09 09:09 AM
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I wonder where the worlds largest military buys their bearings?





You can only buy them from someone who makes them.If we (USA) don't you will have to live with what's availiable. I guess my six old N.O.S. Timken 308SG's are as you would say,"priceless".

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: 62maxwgn] #536050
11/26/09 11:51 AM
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I wonder where the worlds largest military buys their bearings?





You can only buy them from someone who makes them.If we (USA) don't you will have to live with what's availiable. I guess my six old N.O.S. Timken 308SG's are as you would say,"priceless".




they are only priceless till you put a price on them . I remember that Passon had a few sets of USA 308's left a year or so ago at carlisle and the price for them was double ... which made sense since you can't get the good ones anymore ...

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: JohnRR] #536051
11/26/09 03:11 PM
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I wonder where the worlds largest military buys their bearings?





You can only buy them from someone who makes them.If we (USA) don't you will have to live with what's availiable. I guess my six old N.O.S. Timken 308SG's are as you would say,"priceless".





they are only priceless till you put a price on them . I remember that Passon had a few sets of USA 308's left a year or so ago at carlisle and the price for them was double ... which made sense since you can't get the good ones anymore ...





Actually John,mine are worthless,they're are not for sale.

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: 69MOPE] #536052
11/26/09 04:12 PM
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Why not contact Wayne directly and pose the question..
Wayne is certainly one of the most informed people that is knowledgible about the A833s..
We have bought many transmissions and parts from Wayne, he is a straight-shooter..

But again if there is no USA manufacturer of the bearing, the Chinese one is likely the only available choice on the supply side..

Kinda like the A833 reverse lite switch, pay $12-20 for the Chinese version or $60-80 for the NOS USA/Canadian one. Our A833s are now almost 50 years old and certain new renewal parts made in the USA are just not commonly available any more..

Just my $0.01..

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: Sixpak] #536053
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If you can find a Japanese made Bower/BCA, SKS or European Timken bearing I'd take those over any chinese bearing. Years back I installed chinese wheel bearings on an a body and they wore out ridiculously fast. They just did not get the hardness treatment correct on the rollers. I'll never use another chinese bearing again.







the chinese bearings are hit or miss

Re: Chinese bearings in Brewers 4-speed kit? [Re: Sub95] #536054
11/26/09 07:09 PM
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And don't just look at the automotive suppliers.There are two companies in my area,Erie Bearing and Bearings Inc.Specalize in bearings only.Thats where I found most 0f mine.Used in farm equipment and just any piece of equipment you can think of.A lot of places have old stock still on the shelves.

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