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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: CaptainGTX]
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12/11/09 12:28 PM
12/11/09 12:28 PM
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OLD318
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Included in the packaging was a disclaimer that said "ALL seat belts manufactured by PG Classis(sic) or B/E & A Restoration Parts, inc.(sic) and/or distributed by their dealers are for static display and not intended as a DOT certified & tested safety device."
AHHHH The Evil L word....
In this day and age, that is a very WISE disclaimer for PG to use.
Frankly, I am surprised anybody touched reproducing seat belts or seat tracks for that matter. Even steering wheels surprise me.
Why? The Liability greatly outweighs the potential profit to be gained.
So I don't have a problem with the
disclaimer(s) per se.
WITH ONE BIG EXCEPTION!!!
It should be displayed prominently on the website.
On the product being viewed.
The buyer should have the right to see this disclaimer BEFORE making a purchase.
They should even have a checkbox at the time of purchase...
basically signing a waiver...
The buyer should not get this disclaimer in the box AFTER he's paid for them... with no knowledge prior...
Is this what happended?
IF it is, shame on them... that is dilberate.
If it is not... then I have no problem...
For people who restore seat belts..
I would also advise them to have a HUGE DISCLAIMER
on their shipped product. Otherwise they are leaving themselves WIDE OPEN for a lawsuit....
It pains me to say that but it is absolutely true..
Why do you think most collision shops won't touch an old car? They touch it, they are liable.
Frame shops? 99% won't touch an old mopar for the same reason... they "straigten it" they are liable...
Helping your buddy with his old car?
DON'T!
He gets in a wreck... you could be liable!
Best of luck to you
My 
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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: CaptainGTX]
#535019
04/02/10 02:54 PM
04/02/10 02:54 PM
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Charlotte, NC
Kowal
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A friend of mine drove my RR a little bit ago. He asked if he should wear the shoulder belt. I said he could do whatever he wanted, but reminded him that in a bad enough accident, he would be first impaled on the barely collapsable steering column before much else happened!
'69 Hemi Charger 500, ‘70 U code Challenger R/T (These and a bunch others at www.dkowal426.com) P.J. O'Rouke: "The old car ran perfectly, right up until it didn't."
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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: Dougsmopars]
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04/02/10 03:57 PM
04/02/10 03:57 PM
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Pgh, PA
Bull1tt
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I got a set for my GTX from them. There actually made by BE/A in Canada. The only thing made in Canada by PG Classics is money. Just got there new catolog in the mail. It was mailed direct from China. The belts are really nice and color matched perfect. They were super quaility. Beware what you by from PG Classics though. 99% of there stuff is cheap China crap. Better then nothing but if there is another company around for the part you want i'd go with them.
This stuff is one and the same.... AFAIK
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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: Dougsmopars]
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04/02/10 07:30 PM
04/02/10 07:30 PM
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PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA
superwrench
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My new catalogue was from China as well. The seat belts I bought from PG for my boss's Challenger had Chinese heiroglyphics all over the package...appeard to have been direct shipped to me from Dong Long (or is that "Long D...g  ) China. The belts looked and fit great. Didn't see any disclaimers in the package, but that was a year ago...maybe they're smarter now and covering their butts. I need some red belts for my GTX....I'll phone BE/A first since the concensus of opinion is the product seems better.
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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: red dart]
#535027
04/02/10 08:49 PM
04/02/10 08:49 PM
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Newfoundland Canada
Mopar1
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I too would be concerned, as I am going to start looking for a new set of belts for my 69 dart. Can anyone tell me if these parts are made in Canada (PG classics) or do they come from China to Canada? Also, do you guys know of any other company out there that make replica belts
thanks
Both PG Classics (CAN) and B E/A (USA) are China supplied.
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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: Dougsmopars]
#535028
04/02/10 09:48 PM
04/02/10 09:48 PM
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Bull1tt
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Not true. PG does sell some stuff from BE/A but they are not the same company. Most of PG products are shipped direct from China. I bought a good size order from them. Most of it was shipped to me right from China. Most of it was of poor quailty. Better then nothing but i learned my lesson. I'll do more home work before buying repop parts.
I didn't mean that they are the same company, but that they do sell the exact same parts. You get the same stuff regardless which you order from.
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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: Snoopy]
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04/02/10 10:00 PM
04/02/10 10:00 PM
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Today? Who Knows?
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Maybe Chrysler requires higher quality parts when they come with Chrysler markings?
 I think the biggest requirement is that your check clears....
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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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04/03/10 05:08 PM
04/03/10 05:08 PM
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Appleton, Wisconsin
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So let me get this sraight, the seat belts from China are no good, but the other 22 million products that come from there are not?
Don't forget all those recalld Toyotas were built in the USA! I am all for buying American, but prior to someone pushing the Snake Oyl option on seatbelts, to redo a set of seatbelts was like $1000, now they are less then $400. I doubt the Snake Oyl belts were DOT certified either. I bought the PG Classics belts, and they are a good product.
Its not primer its perma gray.
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Re: PG Classic Seat Belts - Safe to Use?
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
#535034
04/03/10 06:03 PM
04/03/10 06:03 PM
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Phoenix Arizona
thebankerstoy
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I have purchased parts from both P.G. Classic and B/E&A and I've been very happy with everything that I've purchased from both companies, but I've gotten to know Mike Ross, who owns B/E&A and he is a TOP QUALITY guy who WILL give you top quality parts and FANTASTIC customer service! When you call B/E&A, you talk to the guy in charge, when you call P.G. Classic, or most other Mopar suppliers, you talk to whoever answers the phone and while most of us here know that Mike is a true Mopar enthusiast, I really can't say that about everybody that I've talked to at P.G. Classic and some of the other Mopar suppliers that I've dealt with over the years. If Mike wouldn't put a part that he sells on one of his own cars, he will NOT sell it to you, period!
For example, I've purchased one of Mike's 66-67 black reproduction dash pads and one of his reproduction black plastic 1967-69 three spoke steering wheels for my 1966 Coronet 500 and both of those parts are absolutely BEAUTIFUL and are of a better quality that the original factory parts were!
Would I buy a set of Mike's seat belts for my car now that he is going to produce them? YES, because I TRUST Mike and KNOW that he won't sell me sub standard parts.
Richard
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