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Milling heads #533743
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Want to raise compression a tad , indy 572-13 heads with 79cc chambers , Indy say these can be milled to a minimum of 62cc , they say every .006" milled off head will loose 1cc , so i take it i can cut .102" off the heads?

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Re: Milling heads [Re: 602heavy] #533744
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Yes but you lose .100 valve clearance at the same time??

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Have around .200" P to V so should be ok , just wanted to make sure before i cut the head , looks like .072" will get the chambers where they want to be.

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I think I have close to .100 of my SR's turned into 440-1's by welding in the pushrod hump and straight MW port now. 64.5 cc and I CC them all to the big size some were 2 cc smaller??

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Spoke with Indy today , the guy says the CNCd heads come with 79cc chambers , the heads purchased without CNC work come out as 75cc , so these heads were obviously bought without any CNC work from indy (75cc) , looks like i only need to cut around .072" off.

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Hmm My 440-1's were CNCd by indy, when Ryan checked them last week they are 86 cc......




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Spoke with Indy today , the guy says the CNCd heads come with 79cc chambers , the heads purchased without CNC work come out as 75cc , so these heads were obviously bought without any CNC work from indy (75cc) , looks like i only need to cut around .072" off.

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We check all our heads before and after milling,the 440-1s usually come up 75cc+ with the heat range spark plug that we intend on running and usually 74ccs- with a soild plug.WE generally cut .041 to get in the 64/65cc range.

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We check all our heads before and after milling,the 440-1s usually come up 75cc+ with the heat range spark plug that we intend on running and usually 74ccs- with a soild plug.WE generally cut .041 to get in the 64/65cc range.




Bob ,this is where it gets confusing , you say .004" per 1cc , the link on the other thread on moparts say .004" per 1cc , Indy say .006" per 1cc , now i'm obviously gonna check before cutting , but how many take Indys advise & cut too much? , or is there a limit on milling wherby the '006" will change the deeper the head gets milled?

I don't see how the .004/.006 can be accurate due to the shape of chamber...................i would think milling would have to be done in stages , checking every so often.

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We check all our heads before and after milling,the 440-1s usually come up 75cc+ with the heat range spark plug that we intend on running and usually 74ccs- with a soild plug.WE generally cut .041 to get in the 64/65cc range.




Bob ,this is where it gets confusing , you say .004" per 1cc , the link on the other thread on moparts say .004" per 1cc , Indy say .006" per 1cc , now i'm obviously gonna check before cutting , but how many take Indys advise & cut too much? , or is there a limit on milling wherby the '006" will change the deeper the head gets milled?

I don't see how the .004/.006 can be accurate due to the shape of chamber...................i would think milling would have to be done in stages , checking every so often.


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Thanks Cab , maybe the formular (.006/.004) only works when milling a certain ammount off the heads , when this 'formular' exceeds a certain depth then less ccs are taken out of chamber per .006/.004 , but how much? , i think indy should state this in there info sheets.

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Good point: the formula only works if the chamber walls are (nearly) parallel. Beyond that point, each .001" removed changes the volume less - and how far down the shape changes is something they should supply.


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My indy heads were supposed to be 75 cc but were 78 to 80 cc made them all equal and milled about .100 to get to 64.5?? so the .006 per cc seems to be what I got.

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A real quick check is to fill the chamber with fluid to the desired cc,mark the level,mill close to the mark and check for the final milling pass.We never found the .000/cc method accurate for the demension change in the size of the chamber.

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Yea Bob , i filled the chamber with 62cc , marked it then cut it , now i got 66cc chambers.

Thing is , i cut .070" off the heads , this works out to .008" per 1cc , the heads were dead on 75cc before cutting , something don't add up.

Thanks for all the input.







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