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Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: autoxcuda] #532119
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I'd be tempted to build a '63-'66 Valiant, basically an early SCCA A Sedan car, with the best suspension & brakes I could afford, and some modern sticky tires. For really weirding out the status guys, a '60-'62 Valiant or Lancer body with a SB swap would have to be an absolute riot, especially if it had 4 doors. If it weren't for the added weight high & at the rear, a wagon would make heads spin...







That would make a very neat car. I've got a picture of one with that look from Fall Fling. I'll try to find it.

They are the lightest and smallest A-bodies and have a 106" wheelbase for the Plymouths. The 60-62's have weird front suspension.

The car would definitely need some fender flares. But make the gradual so they don't stand out to much; like the 70 race T/A and AAR's had. I'd want to run at least 245 wide tires.

Those cars look pretty good without front bumpers too.




I've been searching for a 62 A body for 3 months now (see A body want ads ) to build into a tube chassis road course set-up. I'm planning on using a Caddy CTS IRS with a stroker 360. Should be fun. Heck, I'd even take a wagon if I could find a decnt one. Most guys don't want to hear about me cutting up their cars.


I'm with Helmuth Hübener, and no soup is being served today.
Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: jcc] #532120
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Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: jcc] #532121
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There was an early Valiant 2-door on eBay a while ago...

I think one could get an 8" tire under a '63-'66 with a little work, and maybe 10" if offsets & track width were juggled around & rear minitubs.

Sorry for the hi-jack...

Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: jcc] #532122
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There's a '62 Valiant 2 dr sitting at the end of my road I've been thinking of getting for awhile. I don't think anyone has ever even stopped to ask if it's for sale. I'm sure the guy will sell it cheap.

My '89 Diplomat police package handles awesome. But it already has all the HD stuff on it, front and rear sway bars, big brakes etc. It's fun getting off the interstate with it and taking the corner at 65 mph.

Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: hulmule] #532123
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Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? #532124
11/24/09 02:12 PM
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Hmm, something like this? read about it here; http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_0612_1965_pontiac_gto/accident.html

To make it a mopar, use a 66-67 Satellite. Inexpensive to find, long and low by nature, put a full boogie XV suspension under it and go.

Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: TC@HP2] #532125
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Of course, there is always the 73-73 E body route. read about it here; http://www.glennbunch.com/

Aluminum Hemi running in a class where it is not regulated in any way and is kicking Ferrari butt regularly.

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wow, this one sure got quiet in a hurry.

Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: 67autocross] #532127
11/30/09 08:22 AM
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The M body is a lot more trickey to get to work, when I did mine the I could never get the front to work really good, at the time no one made bigger t-bars, the factory ones just did not have enough spring rate. Plus it a lot of work to get rid of all the rubber that holds the rear springs and axle in place. The A boby also has a 300lb weight advantage.
Now if you just want to have fun a truck can be a blast and you can use it for halling stuff when your not racing it.




firmfeel makes stiffer t-bars for F/M/J's now....but they're ~$700


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Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: TC@HP2] #532128
12/01/09 03:54 PM
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No offense meant to anyone but that's one ugly Challenger, almost looks like a fire chicken.
I love race classes where the cars stay recognizable.
That's why the early Trans Am races are so much fun to watch, stock looking cars flying around the track.

Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #532129
12/01/09 04:00 PM
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how about a 80's cop car?? grand fury or diplomat??? gut it build the 360 (cheap) It already has all the heavy duty junk on it. Plus it'd be cool to show up w/ a 4 door.




ANOTHER vote ferrr an M-body .. but do-it with a 5th Ave.

Re: building a road course car .what would be the best?? [Re: hulmule] #532130
12/01/09 04:24 PM
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Check this guy out. I'm not sure he's still racing this car but you might get some good ideas.

http://users.erols.com/dmapes/ZEBRA.HTM

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