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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: Challenger 1] #527289
11/16/09 07:34 PM
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yes 1500 is kinda small the suspension and brakes really arent made for that kind of weight. but congrats on your new wagon.

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: joshking440] #527290
11/16/09 07:47 PM
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No one has mentioned it, but E rated tires inflated to 80 psi on the tow vehicle are a must. As other's have said, trailer brake controller, maybe an equalizer hitch.

You probably have a 545RFE in it, so you might want to stay out of OD while towing.


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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: ro23car] #527291
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Take from a guy that does towing for a living, you mite feel okay, but your not. I do some krazy stuff, and get away with it, and hope DOT never catches me

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: B1KILLER] #527292
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there is another thing going on dot here in mich is busting ppl for trucks that does not have the proper gvw. and im sure there was another thread on this and iirc bob george got popped in pa for this.

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: ro23car] #527293
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Not enough truck.

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: joshking440] #527294
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is there a door on the trailer to get out of your car easier?i wish i would have got it on mine.any pics of the inside yet?

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: ro23car] #527295
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Of course I have a brake controller, a prodigy p3.
The truck has a "towing" capacity of 8250 as equipped. which means 4400lb trailer with 3200lb car make 7600 lbs and since dont weigh 650lbs i would assume im good, and as far as brakes, i would be willing to bet my 1500 has much bigger brakes than anyones 2500 from more than 4 or 5 years ago....

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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: blownzoom440] #527296
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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: MoparforLife] #527297
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I agree its not enough truck to load it to the hill, but my truck is rated for 8,100lbs and all Im sticking in the trailer is a 3,100lb duster, so Im ok.


not everybody can afford a special truck for everything or a biga**ed dually. Hell that 1500 is plenty good. we used to haul 2 1000 lb steers to market in 1/2 ton 48 Ford truck and spray feilds haulling 250 gallons of water around. 1.5 ton trucks were/are hauling 150 - 200 bushels of 60 lb/bu wheat to market. Cars were towing Air streams. People didn't have Sunday go to meeting trucks. You towed and worked with what you had. Some people still have to do that.
PS: People towing trailers at 80 MPH shouldn't be towing. Just because the speed limit is 0/75 you don't have to drive that fast. Remember that you are towing and no matter what the load rating is you have to allow for it. Stopping distances and mauverability are greatly reduced with a trailer. 5 or ten MPH really don't amount to squat in a couple hundred mile trip. If you have to be some where that few minutes sooner - leave earlier. You will have a safer more comfortable ride and save gas to boot.




Is that the story you plan to tell the DOT cop after he puts you on the scales and tells you you're overloaded?

Like Tony said, its all find and dandy what you did 20 years ago, but that's not today. If you're in an accident and overloaded, a lawyer is going to have a field day taking everything you own.

Is was Bob George who got stopped not that long ago and got a nice hefty fine, and sent to get his CDL IIRC.

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: Prostock] #527298
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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: joshking440] #527299
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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: Prostock] #527300
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I agree its not enough truck to load it to the hill, but my truck is rated for 8,100lbs and all Im sticking in the trailer is a 3,100lb duster, so Im ok.


not everybody can afford a special truck for everything or a biga**ed dually. Hell that 1500 is plenty good. we used to haul 2 1000 lb steers to market in 1/2 ton 48 Ford truck and spray feilds haulling 250 gallons of water around. 1.5 ton trucks were/are hauling 150 - 200 bushels of 60 lb/bu wheat to market. Cars were towing Air streams. People didn't have Sunday go to meeting trucks. You towed and worked with what you had. Some people still have to do that.
PS: People towing trailers at 80 MPH shouldn't be towing. Just because the speed limit is 0/75 you don't have to drive that fast. Remember that you are towing and no matter what the load rating is you have to allow for it. Stopping distances and mauverability are greatly reduced with a trailer. 5 or ten MPH really don't amount to squat in a couple hundred mile trip. If you have to be some where that few minutes sooner - leave earlier. You will have a safer more comfortable ride and save gas to boot.




Is that the story you plan to tell the DOT cop after he puts you on the scales and tells you you're overloaded?

Like Tony said, its all find and dandy what you did 20 years ago, but that's not today. If you're in an accident and overloaded, a lawyer is going to have a field day taking everything you own.

Is was Bob George who got stopped not that long ago and got a nice hefty fine, and sent to get his CDL IIRC.




it depends on what the laws are there. In va. If the truck has car tags then the trailer carrys the weight that means the title of the trailer has to be registered for more than what ever the trailer weights and contents. the truck doesn't matter. if you have truck tags then the title of the truck has to be registered for the weight of the truck, trailer and contents. So you can tow the trailer with a volkswagon long as the trailer is registered for enough weight you might die but they don't care about that. They just want to get our money.

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: ro23car] #527301
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if you are worried about the load rating (and the tow rating is in spec as the OP pointed out), get air bags or an 'add-a-leaf' to help stiffen your truck up while towing. the engine has plenty of grunt for that trailer...i have the same engine in the power wagon and i can tow a huge farm trailer with a 23 foot full keel sailboat on it 70 mph up a hill.

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: joshking440] #527302
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i would be willing to bet my 1500 has much bigger brakes than anyones 2500 from more than 4 or 5 years ago....




I'd say they are right up there with them, and I KNOW you absolutely KILL the 94-98 era 2500 series Dodge trucks.

I would be shopping for some "E" tires though. I ran those on my 95 and it felt like I threw an anchor out. Took a little more "oomph" to get them suckers rolling.

I did finally aquire an 01 2500 CTD for pulling duties back around 03. It was a huge improvement, especially after moving to the desert SW where long steep grades are in abundance.

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: ro23car] #527303
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there is another thing going on dot here in mich is busting ppl for trucks that does not have the proper gvw. and im sure there was another thread on this and iirc bob george got popped in pa for this.




A stated in this post, the post on towing laws is saved in the tech archives and has some very good info from Bob George. Thanks Moparts for saving that info.


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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: pittsburghracer] #527304
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Hey,Josh

What gear ratio do you have in your truck?
Nice to see your Duster coming together also.

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: Darryls-Demon] #527305
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I have the 3.54 ratio in my truck unfortunatly, but 99.9% of the lariam trucks came that way for some reason

Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: joshking440] #527306
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You have the wrong truck and heaven forbid if there is an accident your insurance company will tell you that also. You need something like this.

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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: joshking440] #527307
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The unladen weight of the trailer as it left the factory should be stated on the traler birth certificate, look closely at that and weigh it the first chance you get both empty and again when you are loade up and going to the races. The first new custom built I bought was supposed to weih right at 2900 lbs according to the salesman Wrong, it weighed 4380 empty when I pick it up at thwe factory Dang salesman anyway That was a Pace Shadow 22 ft. 7000 lb gross conventional hieght with one 120 V flourences(SP) light, two 12 v. lights, one overhead vent, four 120 electrical outlets and a cross waist high storage cabinet, no battery, no winch, no tonque jach verify your wiegths truck too


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Re: Got a new trailer and towed it with my 09 1500.... [Re: Cab_Burge] #527308
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That truck will pull that trailor fine....you will have no problems. The '09 1500 is MUCH more truck than say an 1999 2500 and you still see them pulling with no problems.

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