Have a 38 plymouth coupe. I was wondering if anyone has bilt one useing hanging pedals. If so what pedals did you use? I have a set of 2000 Dakota pedals I was thinking of useing but not sure. I was also looking at a set from Kugelkomponents, just want to get some different ideas on how you delt with lack of floor space.

Hydraulic or mechanical clutch?

Hydraulic, I have the setup from the Dakota 5.2 5spd. Also have a Keisler hydraulic throw out kit. Car is set up for a big block, kicking around a small block 5spd. It will be a stick ether way. Dave

i met a guy recently building a 37 ply coupe,,he is using the dakota hanging pedals,,the slick thing is once you mount the pedal assembly,you now have the studs to locate the master brake cly,,and it has a bracket to mount a auto parts or O,E, clutch master and rod,,no figureing out any of the pedal/clutch master ratios its all built in,,,,so i bought a set of dakota pedal just to have around,,, all tho i did build my own system using a stock fork and external slave cylinder on nmy barracuda,, i removed the tilton hyd bearing i was using,,

I was thinking about using the pedals from the Dakota I cut up for its chassis, it is good to hear that others are using them successfully.

I don't know if it would help with your 1938, but I might be able to take some good high visibility "mock up" pictures of the Dakota pedals hanging on my 1940 Dodge right now, as its missing most of the firewall. Might give you an idea if they would work for you.


On my 1931 Ford Roadster, I used Ansen-styled hanging pedals which use an early 1960's Chevy truck combination brake/clutch master cylinder.

It works good for me on that car, but they are single pot master for the brakes, which may bother some people.

Rabid, pics would be nice. I was looking at Wilwoods pedals also to keep every thing under the dash and Keep a clean fire wall.

if you want a clean fire wall,,cut the studs off the dakota pedal mount,,and weld it to the in side of the fire wall,,,then i guess you would use a under the floor master,,like in my 40

How are you using a firewall mounted pedal to work an underfloor M/C?
I know that some big truck and one street rod systems uses a small firewall M/C to operate an underfloor power boosted M/C, but that seems to go against the KISS theory....

sorry, it was in the wee hours of the AM,,i guess i got a litle confused,, thinkng he could have the dakota pedals and a under floor mounted master,, i was offering dakota pedal info,, and realized he wanted a clean fire wall,, its either an easy hyd/ pedal set up with fire wall master or buy an under floor mounted pedal set up

thanks for catching and calling me on this,,sorry for my stupidity,,, i work a rotating shift and live on tylonal PM,,lol

You just had me Gotcha on the long nights...

There are kits to mount a hanging pedal and tuck the master behind the dash to keep the firewall clean.
http://www.performanceonline.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=19108&cat=251&page=1

You could adapt a B series van 90 degree setup too.

I guess I should go back and look at the Dakota as the brackets for the pedals looked welded to me. I pulled the E clips and slid the pivot bar out to drop them out. I was also looking at these.
agahttp://www.kugelkomponents.com/products/brakesystem_180.phpin,

The frame under my car would make going under the floor a little difficult.

ive seen the kits for hanging pedals,and under dash masters,, some are styled after dodge and chevy vans,,they used these set ups woth a bel crank but in a van it located the master under the hood facing the passenger side,, same idea,, i cant remember the name of the co doing these brackets,,ive sen them at the street rod event,,all his stuff is high priced,,but its quality stuff,,

the dakota pedals are only really a plus if you want to run a hydraulic clutch,, the clutch master mounting location is attached to the frame of the pedal assembly,,making it a piece of cake,,,you could use the pedal set up for brakes only also it beats paying a higher cost from speed way or master power,,,,or who ever,,just my 2 cents

I am in the process of researching hanging pedal assemblies for my 34 Dodge coupe. The most complete setup seems to be Kugels, but it is also the most expensive. I want a clean firewall so everything needs to be under the dash. The Wilwood units are geared more toward racing applications. I've seen a few other companies selling just the pedal assembly without the other components. I'll probably go with Kugels. I am also debating whether or not to go with power brakes. The car has Wilwood discs in front and 11 x 2 drum out back. My 70 'Cuda 340 has manual drum all the way around and it stops fine. What do you guys think?
Arno

Still toying with the Dakota pedals. But if this does not work out I will be going with the Kugals setup without the power booster.

both my hot rods have manual brakes,,my barracuda has been converted to 1973 and newer disc brakes 11 inch rotors,,and i have giant C body 11x 2 1/2 brake drums on the back, i run a 33 x 22 rear tire and the car weighs 3500 lbs stops great,,
my 1940 has chevelle 11 inch rotors(changing to ford or mopar rotors) up front and mopar 10x2 or 2 1/2 cant remeber out back,,manual works fine,, if your going with a after market cam,, ask what kind of vacuum it makes,,a lot of after market performance cams dont make enough vacuum to make power brakes work properly,,just my 2 cents

I am running a mild cam (.459 lift 280 duration) so I pretty sure vacuum would be sufficiant. I'm hoping my car will be in the 2500 lb range. At this point I'm leaning toward non power.
Arno

Got the motor and trany in today.

Not much room for the 3 pedals

its the over lap that effects the vacuum,,but if ur leaning toward manual,,you will not have to worry,,,

thats tight

a far out idea,,,what about a hand throttle control,, would be different,,

I was going to try and take 1 inch out of the brake pedal and see if that gets me any closer. I guess I could use a motor cycle twist grip on the shifter

either move the pedals to the left and trim the foot pads or i like the twist grip,,,