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Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? #524180
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I recently read an article in one of the Mopar magazines about the "flaw" that all old Mopars have regarding the firewall block connector pertaining to the hot wires going to the ammeter.

The article mentions the possibility of fires or other electrical maladies and suggests removing the wires essentially rendering the ammeter useless. The recommended fix is to install a voltmeter in the ammeter position and all is well.

Just wondering if there are any alternatives available if a person were wanting to prevent the possibility of an electrical fire yet leave their ammeter functioning as original?

Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: ChryCoGuy] #524181
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Make sure all the firewall connections are clean and tight and you won't have a problem.
The problems come from corrosion, dirty and loose connections.

Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: ChryCoGuy] #524182
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As mentioned be sure all contacts and terminals are kleen and tite. The other key point is to limit the amount of current you are pulling through the amp meter circuit. The 0.25" tab connectors are only good for about 30 amps if you are running electric fans, fuel pump or subwoofer amplifier then you need to run heavier, direct connections. Plus go to a voltmeter....

Just my $0.01...

Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: ChryCoGuy] #524183
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i had read this back some time ago, it may answer you questions.
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Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: Snoopy] #524184
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Make sure all the firewall connections are clean and tight and you won't have a problem.
The problems come from corrosion, dirty and loose connections.




I'm going to be using new wiring harnesses from M&H on my car, so everything will be clean & tight & new. I'd also interested in keeping my original ammeter functioning as an ammeter.

Is swapping on a higher amp alternator asking for trouble?

What about adding a CD player (internal amp only), power antenna, MSD ignition, F&B six pak throttle bodies with Fast Man EFI including electric fuel pump, & the XV power window kit? Would that wreak havoc on the stock ammeter system?

Considering a headlight upgrade also. Does that affect ammeter?

Tav

Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: Sinitro] #524185
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Also be sure to replace that slotted gasket within the cavities (dirt, water,etc.). Lots of newer cars also use a good dose of waterproof grease on exposed connectors, you'll see that in many taillamp sockets. Just needs to be non-conductive. Cleaned copper/brass will oxidize even when exposed to air, let-alone moisture.
Also may want to "squish-down" the folds on female terminals so the edges engage to male terminals better.

Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: cataclysm80] #524186
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Quote:

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Make sure all the firewall connections are clean and tight and you won't have a problem.
The problems come from corrosion, dirty and loose connections.




I'm going to be using new wiring harnesses from M&H on my car, so everything will be clean & tight & new. I'd also interested in keeping my original ammeter functioning as an ammeter.

Is swapping on a higher amp alternator asking for trouble?

What about adding a CD player (internal amp only), power antenna, MSD ignition, F&B six pak throttle bodies with Fast Man EFI including electric fuel pump, & the XV power window kit? Would that wreak havoc on the stock ammeter system?

Considering a headlight upgrade also. Does that affect ammeter?

Tav



The A body cars that had the high amperage alternator option (bigger than 50 amps) did not route the ammeter connections through the bulkhead connector for that reason. A separate, grommeted wire was routed through its own hole in the fire wall.
I have run 65 amp alternators in two Satellites and the Cuda. With proper care and installation, the ammeter works just fine. For example, if your battery is dead, bring it up with an external charger. Jumping it will cause the alternator to put out full power into the battery throught the ammeter when it fires and starts running.
To see how it is done, look at your service manual and look at A body cars electrical wiring. This is on all 70-74 A bodies.

With new harness, I would still load it with silicon grease to keep it moisture tight.
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Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: denfireguy] #524187
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Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: anlauto] #524188
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I have a high amp Powermaster alt in my car for my power amp sound system and I wired a second wire from the alt DIRECT to the ammeter (use one of the plastic plugs in the firewall and drill 2 holes )and another wire from the battery side of the ammeter direct to the starter relay with a fuseable link. This helped ALOT with dim headlites and discharge at idle and you can keep your gauge. To me , this was the easy way to go as most of the resistance is in the connections at the bulkhead connector. If you car has orig 40 year old wires, I would bypass the bulked wires altogether when using a high amp alt.

Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: THESHAKERPROJECT] #524189
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adding a second wire like you mentioned would have pretty much the same effect as replacing the existing wire with a larger gauge wire correct?

Tav

Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: cataclysm80] #524190
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Re: Firewall Block Connectors - hazard? What to do? [Re: ChryCoGuy] #524191
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Lots of GREAT information here! Thanks guys!!







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