Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
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not trying to steal the thread put here is one on my Dart just to show what they could look like if you deside to make them.
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Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
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10/18/10 07:04 PM
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Hey there 3eighty3! your spoiler is on its way!  I just wanted to show that I take great care packaging my spoilers so that it will survive international travel  I pretty much have to custom build the packaging so that it will provide enough crush protection from being tossed around in the air mail  I use lots of tape and bubble wrap to protect the corners & make sure it fits under the 60 inch limit(152.4 cm in metric) since the spoiler itself is 59 inches  off to Austria it goes! I hope you enjoy your spoiler! 
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Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
[Re: TiMopar]
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I got mine by mail just as expected. Very good build quality, straight and sturdy:  I think it's very good value for the money! ______________________________________________ Cuda blog
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Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
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04/19/11 06:32 PM
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Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
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07/29/11 01:24 PM
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They are supposed to help with pushing the front end of the car down at speed and direct air away from underneath the car that extra bit of down force may improve handling a little bit. Spoiler or not, an E-Body still has the wind resistance of a brick and it's not going to help with gas mileage as that is controlled by your right foot The spoilers are mainly to look cool 
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Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
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07/30/11 02:19 AM
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Do these spoilers help with handling, or wind resistance, or gas milage.
Or all three, just wondering....
They will definitely help the natural front end lift these cars experience above 70mph.
The 69 Camaro front spoiler puts down about 75 lbs of force at 85mph compared to no spoilers at all: http://www.yearone.com/enthusiast/restoarchives/winter99/18-21camaro.pdf
This Cuda Trans Am spoiler is a lot MORE effective because it is closer to the ground and wider.
They should also help with engine cooling. This is because the air behind the spoiler is blocked and slowed down creating lower pressure under the engine compartment. That will draw more hot air out of engine compartment and out under the car.
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Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
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02/24/12 12:36 PM
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Any latest news on the spoiler fits and performance? I understand they look cool but has anyone else tried them out at high speed, engine cooling ..... Were the originals painted? Thanks
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Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
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03/20/12 11:29 PM
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Do you still have the front spoilers? Are they holding up?
My personal spoiler is holding up just fine, my car on the other hand has seen better days
I spun out my car earlier in January this year in the rain and I hit a wall on the freeway
 I replaced the passenger with an AMD fender(had so many issues with that!)
 and had to get a 70 grill.
 All fixed now though!
 Spoiler held up through all of that so it's one tough piece!

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Re: Trans Am Cuda front spoiler
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03/21/12 03:21 AM
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Any latest news on the spoiler fits and performance? I understand they look cool but has anyone else tried them out at high speed, engine cooling ..... Were the originals painted? Thanks
You'd have to have some test equipment hooked up to the suspension and do some well thought out tests. That way you get real quantified results. Someone saying, "felt like the front end was pushing down more" is a pretty poor judge. You could go to a track and do a back to back test with and without the spoiler with a good consistent skilled race driver. But he's not going to be able to tell you how many lbs of force it added to the front end.
But just look at the Car Life Magazine tests they did on a Camaro. That car has a very very similar aero profile as an E-body. They got results from that little spoiler. Magazines back in the day called the Cuda a copied 69 Camaro.
The one RylisPro made has like twice the surface area as a 69 Camaro front spoiler. There is no doubt RylisPro spoiler will give more downforce then the Camaro one that gave 75 lbs at 85mph.
This spoiler is a copy of the spoiler Dan Gurney's team/shop/engineers built for his 'Cuda in Trans Am. The Indy race cars Gurney built in that era were dominant and known for good aero. Gurney even invented a aero spoiler design called the "Gurney Flap". "The Gurney flap is the first aerodynamic development made in automobile racing that has been successfully transferred to aircraft engineering" So the designers at the Gurney team/shop knew aerodynamics.
And RylisPro's spoiler is lower to the ground than a Camaro. As a front spoiler gets lower to the ground, the amount of gained downforce increases. A same sized spoiler that is 1/16" from the track surface has double the down-force than if car was raised 1/2" in the front.
Now I realize you can't drive on the street with a spoiler 1/16" nor even 1/2". There are compromises. I think RylisPro spoiler is very maximized in terms of performance vs practicality with great looks.
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