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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: 65HemiCoronet] #517360
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something i just found out....on the mcleod forum it says that the tranny will only have helical cut gears with synchros, so im not to sure what that gearset picture was from then...

Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: mshred] #517361
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Jamie i have been sitting here thinking to myself,
This sounds like something that Jamie should be doing.
I am glad you have made a 5 speed.
I know your tranny's are the best out there!
I hope everyone will atleast do the research when you want to buy a tranny,
and you will find out how great Jamie is and his product is that much better!!!

Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517362
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Jamie,,,,

Im sure it will sell like hot dogs in a ball park...

The true drop in is what 90% of us gear heads want. I converted my Demon to a rowing maching, and I really want a 5 speed, but dont want to cut anything up again, it was a big enough pain in the ass to find a good 4 speed hump, and I dont want to deal with the mess again. THis was before I could get a new floor...

Kasey

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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: DoctorDiff] #517363
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Where did the picture of the gearset come from?

It looks like a totally different application.




http://www.stangtv.com/forum/mcleod-hits-high-gear-their-new-6035.html#


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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517364
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That is really good news Jamie! it's great that your throwing this option out there for those of us who refuse to cut out cars up and still have the best of all worlds. I can't wait to see the finished product!

Rick

Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517365
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Well,
I was not going to say anything just yet, BUT I feel that in light of the recent buzz about the McLeod trans, I guess it won’t hurt.

For a couple years now, we have been working on a NEW 5 Speed trans for Chrysler cars. We were not aware that McLeod was also doing it.

This is a clean sheet project. In other words, we are building this from the ground up. Due to our extensive experience with the cars that it must fit into, our individual designs that we will be offering will make installation easy. In fact, we feel that it will be something that the average guy can put in their car in just a few hours.

This unit will be a BOLT IN!!!!!!! No monkey business with driveline angles, notching torsion bar crossmembers, redrilling bellhouisngs, changing clutches. You will retain your ORIGINAL shifter handle in the ORIGINAL location. The unit will look like it came from the factory in the car. It will be a HURST style shifter arrangement with external linkage, just like the design of shifter that these great cars left the factory with.

There will be an A Body trans
There will be a B Body trans (‘63- ‘69)
There will be a'70 - UP B/E Body trans.

You will use your ORIGINAL driveshaft and yoke
You will use your ORIGINAL transmission crossmember and trans mount
You will use your ORIGINAL bellhousing
You will use your ORIGINAL flywheel,
You will use your ORIGINAL clutch and throwout bearing (18 spline only)

The unit WILL fit under the floor pan with no modifications.

Due to the simplicity here, it WILL be as easy as changing the trans. Truly an afternoon job.

As for cost… I can tell you this, it will not be $2300.00, HOWEVER, I feel that the price will be fair considering that the unit is MADE for the car. Versus taking an existing trans and trying to shoehorn it in and not cut the car as other manufacturers have tried in the past.

To accomplish the project, we have drawn on the years of gear cutting experience from our partner GFI. This is the organization that we have been working with our very successful Hemi OD project. They have a brand new CNC gear cutting facility that WE will be manufacturing the units.in.

And now for the BEST part…….

IT IS MANUFACTURED IN THE USA!

There will be more to come….



Does anyone want to buy a Richmond 5-speed???
I still have all my factory stuff to make an 833 work in my car
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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: fourgearsavoy] #517366
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Quote:

Jamie,,,,

Im sure it will sell like hot dogs in a ball park...

The true drop in is what 90% of us gear heads want. I converted my Demon to a rowing maching, and I really want a 5 speed, but dont want to cut anything up again
Kasey




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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: 72demon416] #517367
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I think it is great that Mcleod is building this, even tho unfortunataly it is apparently foriegn built. We are fotunate to have companies like McLeod and Passon and Liberty and G-force and the others who are willing to step up and make cool stuff for our old Mopars! I don't like buying foreign, but it sure seems to be a way of life nowdays. For cripes sake, my 93 dodge dually was built in Mexico, my 04 Dodge Ram was built by a foriegn company, THe crank and rods in my Hemi are forign. I wish everything was USA built like in the old days, but what's a guy to do? You have to go with what is best going to accomplish your goals, all things considered.
When Passon came out with his 4 speed overdrive gears, I thought it was the greatest! Looks like Mcleads 5 speed is a cool deal too, and I'm sure Jamies 5 speed will be excellent.

When I get my but in gear and get my green GTX back on the street, I'm still thinking I'll go with the Passion 4 speed overdrive. With big inch Hemi tork, you don't really have a use for 5 gears any way.


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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: Hemi_Joel] #517368
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O.K.,
I FINALLY got a minute here.

First I would like to say thank you for all the encouragement. This is definitely the largest thing that we have ever undertaken. However, it seems to be coming together nicely.

I have three gear ratio options. The difference is the 5th gear ratio.

Option#1
1st 2.64
2nd 1.92
3rd 1.40
4th 1.00
5th .75

Option #2
1st 2.64
2nd 1.92
3rd 1.40
4th 1.00
5th .71

Option #3
1st 2.64
2nd 1.92
3rd 1.40
4th 1.00
5th .66

We are possibly considering a different 1st gear ratio as well, but it is likely that we necessitate changing 2nd and 3rd as well to accomodate. I am not sure about that yet.

So, can everyone that is interested, give me some feedback on these ratios. I feel that we are prepared to make two ratios.
Thanks,
Jamie


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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517369
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I think my choices would be gear option #3 for those who want "maximum overdrive" (that was a movie wasn't it?), and options #1&2 are fairly close, maybe something in between those two for the second one? Again any idea when we may see something on the market?? (not to rush you or anything!)


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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517370
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We are SWAMPED today. I will hopefully get back on here later with some more info. I am a little reserved as to saying too much just yet. It will be more than capable of handling almost anything that you can throw at it. (We are not finished testing just yet, so I am not spitting out any figures) As for a street only, we are planning to make a full race version as well, but this will be down the road. You will certainly be able to race the standard version.




Jamie , you've already said to much , I wouldn't say another word till you are ready to go to market .

Just remember what happened when everyones favorite provider of CCJ spoke to soon and also was dumb enough to quote an UNREALISTIC price , you're smarter than that i see, then couldn't come to market because his price wasn't realistic and the market wasn't there...

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I like option 3 , would work well in a car with a steep gear .

If you do a race only box that might be the place for the steeper 1st gear ?

Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: 65HemiCoronet] #517372
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my are this:

I personally like the richmond approach, of having a deep first and direct/low OD 5th. this would allow the use of a tall rear gear, which case for case is stronger than a steep gear, and it has the big benefit of keeping driveshaft RPM down....

What would be neat would be to have 2 gearsets, one with a 3.30-3.50ish first gear and a 1:1 5th, or so. maybe something like a 3.3/2.2/1.5/1/.8 or .85 if 5th needs to be OD, or a 3.5 first, and your proposed 1-4 ratios as 2-5.

for those with dana's, who their tallest gear choice is a 3.54, option #3 looks like the best bet.

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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JohnRR] #517373
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I am hoping for Spring of 2010 for release. As for price, I am not saying anything just yet, but I can say it will be fair. No greediness here.


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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517374
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With that release date i'm assuming Tom Quad has already tested one in his killer AAR ???




Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517375
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man,we are so ready for this.......


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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517376
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Option#3 would be the most popular for people runnimg 3.73 and numerically higher rear gears. If you are going to do a second option.....option #1 with a little steeper first gear would be great for the 3.54 and 3.23 cars. You would have pretty much everyone covered.

Or you could just split the difference and just offer option#2 to keep the costs down a bit.
Either way I think this will be a very popular item depending on the cost.

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This should be great! And as far as pricing if I buy a part and it fits and works like it should I'm happy. A $3500 part that I have to spend months working out the bugs on is not half as good (to me) as say a $4500 part that works right out of the box.


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my are this:

I personally like the richmond approach, of having a deep first and direct/low OD 5th. this would allow the use of a tall rear gear, which case for case is stronger than a steep gear, and it has the big benefit of keeping driveshaft RPM down....

What would be neat would be to have 2 gearsets, one with a 3.30-3.50ish first gear and a 1:1 5th, or so. maybe something like a 3.3/2.2/1.5/1/.8 or .85 if 5th needs to be OD, or a 3.5 first, and your proposed 1-4 ratios as 2-5.

for those with dana's, who their tallest gear choice is a 3.54, option #3 looks like the best bet.



I think, and this is just my opinion, that offering a 1:1 fifth gear is not the way to go considering an aftermarket item that would be used in conjunction with what is installed in most performance cars.....meaning that I think for the most part, guys are currently running 3:70, 4:10 or a bit higer rear gears and are looking for a 5th gear to bring the cruising rpms down. By offering a lower first gear and a 1:1 5th, they would have to change the gears in the rear to take advantage of it. More costs to buying the trans to put in an existing car...
Again just my opinion.


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Re: New MOPAR 5 speed from McLeod!!!!!!! [Re: JamiePasson] #517379
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Great news, .
Maybe a ratio like the red stripe with od for 5th,
probably would be popular.
Maybe do some homework and design ratios for a race only set with 1-1 fifth.
Again, hats off to you.

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