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Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: nitrohemi] #51625
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nitro,, ok thanks,, ive been told the EGGE does rebuild them,,,was just wondering i recently learned they are not available new or rebuild,,,because i am considering switching from the chevy pump back to the mopar look


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Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: nitrohemi] #51626
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Will the 241 Red Ram valve covers fit on a 315 or 325 Dodge? I love those..so cool with the ram figure on them! But I would like the bigger cid motor for the power.

Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: B1Fish540] #51627
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yes same size heads except the valve sizes,,,the embossed heads,, with the words red ram and DODGE and the running ram,are the harder to find,,not all 241s had them, some had the smooth type as well, do you have a motor yet ?

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1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
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Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: fstfish66] #51628
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yes same size heads except the valve sizes,,,the embossed heads,, with the words red ram and DODGE and the running ram,are the harder to find,,not all 241s had them, some had the smooth type as well, do you have a motor yet ?




Ok thanks. Did they come on the 55 270s? I could swear that my folks '55 Royal Lancer had the ones with the running ram on them...but i was too little to see them myself.

No I dont have a motor yet, just thinking ahead to a future project. I have a chance to get a 50 Dodge business coupe and thought a little hemi would be a cool mill for it.

Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: B1Fish540] #51629
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i dont know for sure what all they were available on,,but if you want them you should start looking on e bay and hot hemi heads .com

be prepared a little hemi to rebuild and colect all the stuf you need to make run with modern tranny,,,etc,, aint little bucks,,


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Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: fstfish66] #51630
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i dont know for sure what all they were available on,,but if you want them you should start looking on e bay and hot hemi heads .com

be prepared a little hemi to rebuild and colect all the stuf you need to make run with modern tranny,,,etc,, aint little bucks,,




Thanks for the info, I checked out Hot Heads and they had only one 325 Hemi for sale..wants $2800 for it. Are these motors kinda rare? I suppose I could always go with a nice 392, but would like to keep it all Dodge.

Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: B1Fish540] #51631
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hot heads has a classified section,,,motors and parts for sale all the time,,the dodge hemis are the smalest phisical in size,, and cost as much as the bug inch chryslers to build,,and a lot less performance parts for the dodge,,,the 241 seems to be plenty ful compared to the 315/325 no one wants to give them up,,


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Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: fstfish66] #51632
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I know, you can get some nice alum. heads for the Chyslers. A built 392 would be a really stout piece compared to a Dodge. Thats alot of horse power to give up just for being able to run a Dodge. This is something I will have to think about. Even the 270s are fairly common. Can the 270s be stroked?

Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: B1Fish540] #51633
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i guess if u wanna have custom parts made,,315/325 would be a beeter deal,,but still no realt performance parts,, maybe a better intake selection,, the chrysler is the way to go if your looking for easy to get parts,and HP,, if your cas has the room under the hood for a big chrysler


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Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: fstfish66] #51634
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Has anybody you know of stroked a 325? Could you get close to 390 ci with a welded stroker, you think?

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no one i know of,,,if u need 390 cubes,,,get a 392 chrysler,,


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2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
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Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: fstfish66] #51636
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Here's a pic of my 53 Coronet convert. I'd include a pic of the Red Ram engine, but the only one I have mostly shows just the 44 years of grease & grime. Maybe later.

Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? [Re: B1Fish540] #51637
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Has anybody you know of stroked a 325? Could you get close to 390 ci with a welded stroker, you think?




325 Dodge hemi already has a 3.80" stroke. To get 390 cubes, you'd need about a 4.5" stroke.

Problem with the early Dodge hemi is that its bore center-to-center distance - 4.1875 inches - is one of the smallest of any V-8 ever (the Ford 4.6-5.4 modular V-8 is smaller).

By comparison, a SBC is 4.40 inches, SB Mopar is 4.46, and a BB Mopar is 4.80 inches.

So all the early Dodge hemis are small-bore engines, and the small bore limits its cubic inch potential.

The early De Soto hemi was also limited in size potential, just not quite as limited as the Dodge. Its 4.3125" bore center distance you will note is still less than either a small block Chevy or Mopar.

And just FYI, the Chrysler 331-354-392 hemi had a 4.5625" bore spacing.

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Thanks 413, wow that is a small bore space! I guess one should consider the Dodge hemis to be small blocks, actually. I guess i can live with that..lol I did ask Hot Heads about this today and he wrote back that i could have the crank welded and offset ground but that it would be more cost effective to just start with a bigger ci motor in the first place. He said the 325 "can hold its own" with any motor. So if i decided to use it, i wont try to make it any bigger than it already is..and I agree, a 3.8 stroke is already pretty long! Thanks again for all the good info.

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Here's a pic of my 53 Coronet convert. I'd include a pic of the Red Ram engine, but the only one I have mostly shows just the 44 years of grease & grime. Maybe later.




That baby is cool, Captain!

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never seen one of those,,, what red ram do you have ?


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2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
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The convert has its original 241 Red Ram hooked up to a Gyro-Torque transmission. The car was put into storage by the original owners in 1965 because of a transmission problem. I got it from their family this fall. Am working on getting the engine running before attacking the tranny. Hope to have it on the road this spring. Plan to drive it a year to sort out the bugs before starting restoration.

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very kool find,,,how many more are out there hiding


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1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
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My first car (bought in 1966 - one year after the convert was put in storage) was a 53 Coronet sedan. I would have remembered seeing a convert in the years since, but didn't, nor have I talked to anyone who had. I've searched the internet & only found 4 others. Two are in collections (a red on in AZ or NV and a blue one in FL?), an unrestored black one in CA and the body of one being parted out, forget where. There are undoubtedly more around (4100 were built), but it has to be a pretty rare car.

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i have gotten a few e mails saying some one posting screen name ply36 with pics of a 241,, but i dont see his posting,and it the link says moparts cant find the page,,,any one else ??


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