Posted By: gkgeiger
Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/22/08 04:28 PM
Just looking to see what other people are doing with their little Dodge Hemi's.
Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there?
Posted By: RodStRace
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/24/08 07:13 PM
60 views and no replies, so here's a bump.
There is a local guy that has one in his 32.
Nice car; Black with silver sides painted with realistic flames 20 years ago. It's been in mags and he's put a ton of miles on it.
There is a local guy that has one in his 32.
Nice car; Black with silver sides painted with realistic flames 20 years ago. It's been in mags and he's put a ton of miles on it.
Posted By: RTSrunner
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/24/08 08:58 PM
I've got a 1955 DeSoto 291" Hemi,still unsure of it's exact destination.It will be in a rod or early rod style custom when it does end up somewhere.I just have to build it first,well someday.Anybody have a spare early mopar body?
Ron
Ron
Posted By: HemiStan
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/25/08 12:30 AM
This is my brother's 241 Hemi. He bought it off of here 3 years ago for $2,000. It had 40,000 original miles!! We put some decent used tires on it that I had lying around, ditched the oil bath air cleaner for a small paper style element, put on a glass pack which we branched into "duals", and sprayed the whole thing Rustoleum flat black. Total investment was less than $2,200. He then drove it up to Lake George, NY and has used it as a daily driver on-and-off ever since. I regret not buying the car myself!
Posted By: wyldebill
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/25/08 12:56 AM
i have a 55 270 that im looking 4 parts 4. still dont know what its going in though.
Posted By: gkgeiger
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/25/08 02:12 AM
My 241 is going in a '31 A coupe. It'll be a traditional hiboy with a T-5 5 speed.It will look something like this.
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Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/25/08 03:07 PM
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My 241 is going in a '31 A coupe. It'll be a traditional hiboy with a T-5 5 speed.It will look something like this.
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Man, stick a hemi in that and it would be my idea of a PERFECT rod!
Posted By: Robbins
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/25/08 04:40 PM
I have one. It's in a 5 window 54 two ton truck. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it. I have a 392 Hemi also, not sure what I'm going to do with that either.
Posted By: John_Kunkel
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/25/08 07:55 PM
My friend Geri's Dodge Hemi powered Fiat.
Posted By: magnumcharger
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/25/08 10:54 PM
I've got a 241 Red Ram that I pulled out of a swamp, where it sat upside down in the mud since 1962. So right about when I was born!
I've been collecting parts to "put it right", but really don't have use for it right now.
Oh yes, I've got to get the stuck pistons out of the bores before I do anything else!!
I've been collecting parts to "put it right", but really don't have use for it right now.
Oh yes, I've got to get the stuck pistons out of the bores before I do anything else!!
Posted By: mopowertim
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/26/08 01:13 AM
Quote:
I have one. It's in a 5 window 54 two ton truck. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it. I have a 392 Hemi also, not sure what I'm going to do with that either.
I Do......Sell them to me!
Posted By: mopowertim
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/26/08 01:14 AM
I'm looking for a Red Ram for my 56 Suburban.
Posted By: mopowertim
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/26/08 11:04 PM
Never mind, just bought a fresh 331 Fire power with Hot Heads intake and Isky cam, nere local for 1500.00 bucks!!!!!!
Posted By: gkgeiger
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/26/08 11:58 PM
Quote:
Never mind, just bought a fresh 331 Fire power with Hot Heads intake and Isky cam, nere local for 1500.00 bucks!!!!!!
Sounds like you were at the right place at the right time.
Posted By: mopowertim
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/27/08 11:35 AM
Yeah, I found it bird dogging a 315 Red Ram a guy supposedly had for sale. I was asking some guys at a local JY about it, and they put me on to this one. I was told it was a 330 Desoto Fire Dome, got there and found a 331 instead! The guy just wanted to get rid of it, he was going to use it in a Chevy Luv truck, decided it was too much work and went SBC. I got reaaaaaaall lucky!! BTW I'm still on the trail of the 315... Block, heads, valve covers and crank for 150.00 is the story.....
Posted By: AKA
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/29/08 01:58 AM
I just picked up a 354, pretty cheap off craigslist, needs a rebuild, I plan on putting it in a glass Willys coupe that I have, needs a ton of work, its on an S10 (blasphemy! 
) chassis, I'm looking for an original frame, going gasser style, oh yeah.
) chassis, I'm looking for an original frame, going gasser style, oh yeah.
Posted By: 354valiant
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/29/08 09:14 AM
Maybe not a baby Dodge HEMI but here is my '65 Valiant with a '56 354 Chrysler HEMI. We also have a '59 315 Dodge, '55 270 Dodge, and a '58 392 Chrysler, but we are not sure where they will find their homes. We got some ideas like an old '55 Nash Metropolitan Altered for the 392 and maybe one of those Dodges will find a home in '40 Willys 4-door gasser or maybe a '52 Studebaker Commander... Thanks Brian & Gordy
Posted By: 354valiant
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/29/08 09:15 AM
engine...'56 HEMI 354 inches...
Posted By: AKA
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/29/08 12:45 PM
That Valiant is WICKED!!!! 
More pics?
Posted By: 354valiant
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/29/08 01:07 PM
Thanks...Brian 
Posted By: AKA
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/29/08 01:26 PM
I had a 66 Valiant that someone started to turn into a pro street, but I had too many projects at the time, so I sold it real cheap, your car makes me wish I had kept it. I showed my wife the pics, she said 'Wow, you should have kept yours, idiot!' 
Really neat car, I love it!
Really neat car, I love it!
Posted By: Robbins
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/29/08 04:45 PM
It is cool, makes me want to put my 57 392 in mine some day.
Posted By: mopowertim
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/31/08 01:47 AM
And people whine about putting exhaust on a small block in an early A body-lmao... very cool!!!!
Posted By: 4speeds4me
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/31/08 06:21 AM
Yeah...I'd REALLY like to see that one in person one day...
...my first thought was "smallest engine bay for an A-body and they've got a whale in it!"
...my first thought was "smallest engine bay for an A-body and they've got a whale in it!"
Posted By: black64
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/08/08 10:33 PM
Not a baby hemi a 392 in 40 ford.
Posted By: AKA
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/09/08 02:23 AM
Quote:
Not a baby hemi a 392 in 40 ford.
Nice!!!
Any more pics? 
Posted By: gkgeiger
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/09/08 02:43 AM
I stole this one from H.A.M.B. built by Chopperman
Posted By: black64
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/09/08 06:42 PM
Quote:Quote:
Not a baby hemi a 392 in 40 ford.
Nice!!!
Yeah I have a few more.
Posted By: black64
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/09/08 06:46 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
Not a baby hemi a 392 in 40 ford.
Nice!!!
Yeah I have a few more.
one more
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/09/08 07:34 PM
here our's. Can you guys guess which one this is??
Posted By: mopowertim
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/09/08 11:41 PM
desoto fire dome?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/10/08 06:49 PM
its a 341 desoto
Posted By: Robbins
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/11/08 02:33 PM
Cool, what are you going to put that in?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/13/08 02:45 AM
Hopefully an early 30's plymouth coupe IF I can find one.
Posted By: Magnus_Jager
54 coronet w 241 - 02/25/08 08:07 PM
I've got a 54 coronet with the 241, fully rebuilt still coming back together though.
Project journal is over here .
Hotrodders journal
Project journal is over here .
Hotrodders journal
Posted By: Ply36
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/26/08 12:14 AM
i have a'54 241 in a '36 Plymouth coupe. it's all Mopar, front to back; the trans is an A-833 4spd out of a '69 Charger and the rear end is from a '69 (i think) GTX. unfortunately i can't load a picture as my nitwit (future) son-in-law fried the pc with all my pictures on it. btw, the engine has been built up and with the 3x2 carburetion, it looks pretty good too.
Posted By: Robbins
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/26/08 01:22 PM
Cool.
Posted By: RAT PATROL
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/02/08 04:06 AM
Is this a baby Hemi? Well probably more of a juvenile delinquent Hemi.
Posted By: 4speeds4me
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/02/08 04:49 AM
Well, the distributor is at the back, so I'd say so!
Posted By: FASTBACK66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/05/08 04:16 AM
A guy I know has been trying to sell me a early Fifties Coronet with a baby Hemi. Not sure of the size,241 probably. The one's with the bellhousing cast onto the back of the block. Are they worth doing? The car is original needing alot of work but complete. I keep saying it's not worth as much as he thinks (you know the type,has a Hemi so it's worth gold) 
I was going to put the engine in my 49 Plymouth Deluxe and.
Vinny
I was going to put the engine in my 49 Plymouth Deluxe and
. Vinny
Posted By: shinnery
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/05/08 07:30 AM
As far as I know only the 51-53 Chrysler 331s had the built in bellhousing. In fact in the "Tex Smith's The Complete Chrysler Hemi Engine Manual" they state DeSoto and Dodge never had the extended bellhousing. HTH
Bryce
Bryce
Posted By: mopowertim
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/05/08 02:14 PM
If it's extended bellhousing it's 51-53 331
Posted By: Robbins
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/05/08 07:43 PM
Posted By: TrWaters
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/06/08 12:51 AM
I did this one a few years ago. 80 Volare RR with a 354, 4 speed.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/06/08 12:54 AM
Quote:
My 241 is going in a '31 A coupe. It'll be a traditional hiboy with a T-5 5 speed.It will look something like this.
Man, stick a hemi in that and it would be my idea of a PERFECT rod!
Posted By: Robbins
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/06/08 12:29 PM
Trwaters, was that car fun?
Posted By: RAT PATROL
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/16/08 01:05 AM
My sister's steel 34 Ford, Hemi powered.
Posted By: RAT PATROL
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/16/08 01:20 AM
392 Hemi that I built for my sister's 34 coupe. They have great power and sound throaty. 57 - 392 Hemi,Forged 10 to 1 pistons, polished standard crank, 340 oil pump, Billet double roller timing chain and gears, Chev water pump, Ported heads, Isky 285 Cam, Hot Heads tunnel ram, Edelbrock 625 Carbs, BDS scoop, Vertex Magneto, Full manual torqueflite. She absolutely loves it, starts on one half revolution.
Posted By: 4speeds4me
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/16/08 04:12 AM
DUDE! Your sister ROCKS! 
Posted By: HemiDave
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/18/08 07:23 AM
I will be putting a 241 in a 33 Plymouth coupe...unless one of the 426s looks better!! 
Dave
Dave
Posted By: bohmer2
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/18/08 02:07 PM
Quote:
392 Hemi that I built for my sister's 34 coupe. They have great power and sound throaty. 57 - 392 Hemi,Forged 10 to 1 pistons, polished standard crank, 340 oil pump, Billet double roller timing chain and gears, Chev water pump, Ported heads, Isky 285 Cam, Hot Heads tunnel ram, Edelbrock 625 Carbs, BDS scoop, Vertex Magneto, Full manual torqueflite. She absolutely loves it, starts on one half revolution.
Your sister single?
Posted By: Robbins
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/19/08 12:43 PM
Quote:
DUDE! Your sister ROCKS!
That's what I was thinking.
Posted By: RAT PATROL
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/22/08 03:28 AM
Her next project is a 62 Max Wedge Post car, but I need to get my race car running first, then we will start on that.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/22/08 05:33 PM
Dodge hemi powered rat rod at the Garlits show couple of years ago:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/22/08 05:40 PM
From the pages of Hot Rod, early 60's:
315 D-500-1 Hemi in a 37 Chevy coupe:
Injected 241 Dodge hemi in 32 Ford at Bonneville:
Tri-carb 241 Hemi in 29 Ford p/u:
Supercharged Dodge hemi, Ford streetrod:
315 D-500-1 Hemi in a 37 Chevy coupe:
Injected 241 Dodge hemi in 32 Ford at Bonneville:
Tri-carb 241 Hemi in 29 Ford p/u:
Supercharged Dodge hemi, Ford streetrod:
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 03/25/08 06:39 AM
241 red ram in my 40 dodge,,
Posted By: JohnnyBeGood
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 09/20/08 04:33 AM
I am building A blown street 92 and I want to put it in a 68 fastback cuda! But I am still trying to figure out the best way so I can run full length headers? So far the alterkation front end with preinsatalled 92 mounts seem the best so far and thats about 3 grand or so just for that!
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 09/20/08 05:00 AM
Would love a baby hemi for my rat rod p/u but cannot afford one. Very expensive to build as well. Guess I'll have to stick to 318 power...
Posted By: rdrnr6970
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 09/21/08 11:02 AM
ive got a 354 dual quad hemi in my 56 300B im restoring!
Posted By: bohmer2
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 09/22/08 01:08 AM
Quote:
Would love a baby hemi for my rat rod p/u but cannot afford one. Very expensive to build as well. Guess I'll have to stick to 318 power...
331's especially long bell 331's are not every expensive at least here in the midwest it seems. I have seen one's in good to great shape from 500 to 1000. I cant imagine for a re-ring kit or a complete rebuilt with machine shop work would be much cheaper for a small block mopar? Its not like we are talking an early hemi vs a 350 chevy which you can build with money saved up from a couple of trips picking up aluminum cans.
Posted By: 68KillerBee
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 10/16/08 10:12 PM
how much are these things worth? how much to rebuild? my cousin said he found a couple....
Posted By: bohmer2
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 10/17/08 02:05 AM
Price varies depending on what engine you get and what year it is for the Chryslers. For example, the 392 is the most expensive with complete engines being a couple grand and bare unmolested blocks going upwards of $1k. Next would be the 354 which is usually half or less than a 392, and then the 331's with the later 54+ 331's being more valuable than the early 331 extended bell motors. Rebuilt kits are in the $1500+ range with crank, rings, pistons, cam and gaskets. This doesnt include the additional cost of a front chain cover to allow for a BBC water pump to be used.
Really depends on what was found and what condition it is in, I am not positive but I believe one of the guys from RM mobarn was trying to sell a 331 longbell engine for $500 and it took awhile.
Really depends on what was found and what condition it is in, I am not positive but I believe one of the guys from RM mobarn was trying to sell a 331 longbell engine for $500 and it took awhile.
Posted By: ezdusit
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 09/30/09 02:00 PM
My 241 is going into a '32 Plymouth Model PB roadster. Here's what I'm starting with:
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 10/01/09 05:39 AM
that wil be kool thats a rare kool intake only ever seen one before yours,,,,
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 10/06/09 05:32 AM
heres a pic of my 241 hemi in my 1940 dodge coupe
Posted By: kardude67
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/01/09 03:21 AM
I'm new to the Hemi planet, but I am building a '24
Dodge Brothers coupe using a stock frame with a one-off suicide front and a vintage sprint car open tube quickie. A 241 with twin deuces will power through a turbo 350. Should be a hoot. I'll be asking a lot of questions along the way, and I'll
photo log the build. I brought the frame in today to start mock-up.
Dodge Brothers coupe using a stock frame with a one-off suicide front and a vintage sprint car open tube quickie. A 241 with twin deuces will power through a turbo 350. Should be a hoot. I'll be asking a lot of questions along the way, and I'll
photo log the build. I brought the frame in today to start mock-up.
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/12/09 06:05 AM
looks like as long road,,but kool that you found a realy rare body,,,why a turbo 350 ? i run a 904 behind a 241,,
Posted By: kardude67
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/14/09 05:07 AM
Well..........I'm primarily a Bowtie guy, but I collect and love any and all cool cars. I just happen to have a bunch of Chevy parts laying around.
Keep watching. I'm sure that you'll be surprised at how fast this car comes along.
'08 Challenger SRT8
'24 Dodge Brothers coupe
'65 Chevelle SS
'73 Camaro
'59 Star Chief
'68 GTO
'39 GMC wrecker
'69 Nova
'59 LeSabre
'95 Impala SS
'03 SSR
'55 IHC coe
'33 Ford coupe
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Keep watching. I'm sure that you'll be surprised at how fast this car comes along.
'08 Challenger SRT8
'24 Dodge Brothers coupe
'65 Chevelle SS
'73 Camaro
'59 Star Chief
'68 GTO
'39 GMC wrecker
'69 Nova
'59 LeSabre
'95 Impala SS
'03 SSR
'55 IHC coe
'33 Ford coupe
Posted By: kardude67
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/14/09 05:23 AM
I thought that this might be a rare car, but how rare is it?
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/25/09 04:32 AM
well figure its a 1924 you said,,,any thing that old is rare,even more so thats its a dodge
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/25/09 04:37 AM
QUESTION,, how hard and where can you get a rebuilt or new factory dodge red ram water pump,,not the housing just the pump,,looks sorta like a big block mopar pump,,,thanks in advance
if some one can e mail me the info that would be great,,,, fstfish66@aol.com
if some one can e mail me the info that would be great,,,, fstfish66@aol.com
Posted By: kardude67
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/27/09 06:46 AM
I don't know where a rebuilt or new would be available, but I'm not going to use mine. I'm gonna switch to the sbc pump. You are welcome to it.As for my '24, I have a super t10 laying around, so I'm probably gonna put it in the old rod.
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Posted By: nitrohemi
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/28/09 12:50 PM
this is my 315 dodge. just fired it on thanksgiving. pretty much a stock rebuild to look like a d 500 motor. its going im my 31 dodge. the headers are temporary as I am going to build some fenderwell style headers. this replaces my 318. I don't know if I am going to run the 426 style boots or the wire covers yet
Posted By: nitrohemi
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/28/09 12:52 PM
another
Posted By: moparx
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/28/09 01:23 PM
i'll bet that sounds nasty with the open pipes !
Posted By: CaptainGTX
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/29/09 03:08 AM
My 241 Red Ram will stay right where it's at - in the engine bay of a 53 Coronet convert. Have pics of it as found after 44 years in storage, but they are too big to post.
Posted By: gregsrt
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/29/09 04:32 AM
Not mine, but the way I would build one if I had the $$$
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/29/09 06:11 PM
nitro,, kool where did you get a factory style water pump from ?? ive heard there impossible to find ??thanks
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/29/09 06:18 PM
44 years,,,would love to see a pic,,,,yes as far as posting this site makes it hard,,,i have pics with an older camera that were taken at 3.0 megapixel,,that wont post,,my new camera has a selection,, i reduced them to 2.2 or 2.5 megapixel,,and they seem to post usually with out problems,,
Posted By: nitrohemi
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/29/09 09:22 PM
I has the water pump housing and found a guy on ebay from jersey that had a rebuit pump. I figures I would give it a try before converting to a chevy pump. I wanted that stock look also
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/30/09 02:31 AM
nitro,, ok thanks,, ive been told the EGGE does rebuild them,,,was just wondering i recently learned they are not available new or rebuild,,,because i am considering switching from the chevy pump back to the mopar look
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/30/09 03:00 PM
Will the 241 Red Ram valve covers fit on a 315 or 325 Dodge? I love those..so cool with the ram figure on them! But I would like the bigger cid motor for the power. 
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 11/30/09 03:33 PM
yes same size heads except the valve sizes,,,the embossed heads,, with the words red ram and DODGE and the running ram,are the harder to find,,not all 241s had them, some had the smooth type as well, do you have a motor yet ?
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/01/09 03:51 AM
Quote:
yes same size heads except the valve sizes,,,the embossed heads,, with the words red ram and DODGE and the running ram,are the harder to find,,not all 241s had them, some had the smooth type as well, do you have a motor yet ?
Ok thanks. Did they come on the 55 270s? I could swear that my folks '55 Royal Lancer had the ones with the running ram on them...but i was too little to see them myself.
No I dont have a motor yet, just thinking ahead to a future project. I have a chance to get a 50 Dodge business coupe and thought a little hemi would be a cool mill for it.
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/01/09 05:33 AM
i dont know for sure what all they were available on,,but if you want them you should start looking on e bay and hot hemi heads .com
be prepared a little hemi to rebuild and colect all the stuf you need to make run with modern tranny,,,etc,, aint little bucks,,
be prepared a little hemi to rebuild and colect all the stuf you need to make run with modern tranny,,,etc,, aint little bucks,,
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/01/09 06:12 PM
Quote:
i dont know for sure what all they were available on,,but if you want them you should start looking on e bay and hot hemi heads .com
be prepared a little hemi to rebuild and colect all the stuf you need to make run with modern tranny,,,etc,, aint little bucks,,
Thanks for the info, I checked out Hot Heads and they had only one 325 Hemi for sale..wants $2800 for it. Are these motors kinda rare? I suppose I could always go with a nice 392, but would like to keep it all Dodge.
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/01/09 07:13 PM
hot heads has a classified section,,,motors and parts for sale all the time,,the dodge hemis are the smalest phisical in size,, and cost as much as the bug inch chryslers to build,,and a lot less performance parts for the dodge,,,the 241 seems to be plenty ful compared to the 315/325 no one wants to give them up,,
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/01/09 08:48 PM
I know, you can get some nice alum. heads for the Chyslers. A built 392 would be a really stout piece compared to a Dodge. Thats alot of horse power to give up just for being able to run a Dodge. This is something I will have to think about. Even the 270s are fairly common. Can the 270s be stroked?
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/01/09 09:42 PM
i guess if u wanna have custom parts made,,315/325 would be a beeter deal,,but still no realt performance parts,, maybe a better intake selection,, the chrysler is the way to go if your looking for easy to get parts,and HP,, if your cas has the room under the hood for a big chrysler
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/01/09 11:21 PM
Has anybody you know of stroked a 325? Could you get close to 390 ci with a welded stroker, you think?
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/02/09 12:59 PM
no one i know of,,,if u need 390 cubes,,,get a 392 chrysler,,
Posted By: CaptainGTX
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/02/09 07:56 PM
Here's a pic of my 53 Coronet convert. I'd include a pic of the Red Ram engine, but the only one I have mostly shows just the 44 years of grease & grime. Maybe later.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/02/09 10:02 PM
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Has anybody you know of stroked a 325? Could you get close to 390 ci with a welded stroker, you think?
325 Dodge hemi already has a 3.80" stroke. To get 390 cubes, you'd need about a 4.5" stroke.
Problem with the early Dodge hemi is that its bore center-to-center distance - 4.1875 inches - is one of the smallest of any V-8 ever (the Ford 4.6-5.4 modular V-8 is smaller).
By comparison, a SBC is 4.40 inches, SB Mopar is 4.46, and a BB Mopar is 4.80 inches.
So all the early Dodge hemis are small-bore engines, and the small bore limits its cubic inch potential.
The early De Soto hemi was also limited in size potential, just not quite as limited as the Dodge. Its 4.3125" bore center distance you will note is still less than either a small block Chevy or Mopar.
And just FYI, the Chrysler 331-354-392 hemi had a 4.5625" bore spacing.
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/02/09 11:47 PM
Thanks 413, wow that is a small bore space! I guess one should consider the Dodge hemis to be small blocks, actually. I guess i can live with that..lol I did ask Hot Heads about this today and he wrote back that i could have the crank welded and offset ground but that it would be more cost effective to just start with a bigger ci motor in the first place. He said the 325 "can hold its own" with any motor. So if i decided to use it, i wont try to make it any bigger than it already is..and I agree, a 3.8 stroke is already pretty long! Thanks again for all the good info.
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/03/09 12:13 AM
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Here's a pic of my 53 Coronet convert. I'd include a pic of the Red Ram engine, but the only one I have mostly shows just the 44 years of grease & grime. Maybe later.
That baby is cool, Captain!
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/04/09 08:05 PM
never seen one of those,,, what red ram do you have ?
Posted By: CaptainGTX
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/05/09 02:29 AM
The convert has its original 241 Red Ram hooked up to a Gyro-Torque transmission. The car was put into storage by the original owners in 1965 because of a transmission problem. I got it from their family this fall. Am working on getting the engine running before attacking the tranny. Hope to have it on the road this spring. Plan to drive it a year to sort out the bugs before starting restoration.
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/05/09 02:38 AM
very kool find,,,how many more are out there hiding
Posted By: CaptainGTX
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/05/09 03:12 AM
My first car (bought in 1966 - one year after the convert was put in storage) was a 53 Coronet sedan. I would have remembered seeing a convert in the years since, but didn't, nor have I talked to anyone who had. I've searched the internet & only found 4 others. Two are in collections (a red on in AZ or NV and a blue one in FL?), an unrestored black one in CA and the body of one being parted out, forget where. There are undoubtedly more around (4100 were built), but it has to be a pretty rare car.
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 12/15/09 05:38 AM
i have gotten a few e mails saying some one posting screen name ply36 with pics of a 241,, but i dont see his posting,and it the link says moparts cant find the page,,,any one else ??
Posted By: Ply36
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/16/10 04:46 AM
that would be me, sorry if it's messed anyone up. the problem is that the pics are too large and have been having trouble with the iMac posting them as attachments. when i make an attempt, i test it right away and if it doesn't come up, i delete it before anyone wastes their time. The iMac doesn't allow me to resize the photo (in iPhoto), so i'm trying to email to my computer at work and back here. the email process does allow reduction in photo size. i was about to make another attempt.
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/17/10 07:40 AM
PLY36 FEEL FREE TO E MAIL THEM TO ME,,and remind me to resize them then ill post them,, lets see a pic of the car,,,,what dizzy you running/??? and how do you like the 3 carbs ??? 2 bbls ide assume?
fstfish66@aol.com
fstfish66@aol.com
Posted By: Ply36
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/17/10 04:17 PM
I'm running a Mallory. I initially tried a MSD, but the intake manifold extended back too far to slide the distributor in. With smaller diameter, the Mallory makes it in, but not by a whole lot. I'm happy with the tri-power set up. One aspect of it is the visual, it just looks cool on a Hemi. Performance-wise, it's better when I nail it in first (rolling) or from a stop, but if I open all six at about 70 or so, it's less impressive. Just an adjustment issue, I haven't hit the right combination yet. The carbs are Rochester, they're all functional. As a lot of you already know from your own experience, the real fun is in the driving.
It's never been on a dyno, but the best guess is I'm getting about 310-315 hp. And with the total weight of the car just under 3000 lb., it does all right.
It's never been on a dyno, but the best guess is I'm getting about 310-315 hp. And with the total weight of the car just under 3000 lb., it does all right.
Posted By: mike s
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/18/10 03:06 AM
Here is one I saw at the annual Lansing,Mi show.
Posted By: mike s
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/18/10 03:07 AM
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Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/21/10 04:15 PM
315 hp out of a 241 ?? did you have custom high compression pistons made? with stock pistons 7.1 compresion,,factory hp is 140 with a 2 bbbl., i think it would be very hard to double thet hp with out bigger compression
Posted By: Ply36
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/21/10 11:48 PM
The pistons were custom-made by JE pistons, c.r. is 10 to 1, cam reground by ISKY (i think 270 deg., don't remember lift), balanced, ported, sanderson headers, align-bored, and overall displacement due to .030 over is about 244. Interesting story about the pistons is that since nobody made custom forged-aluminum pistons for this engine, the engine builder had to make clay impressions of the cylinder head so JE could proceed.
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/22/10 05:24 PM
very kool...what did those cost to have made??
i returned the pic you e mailed me,,i resized it by 75%
i returned the pic you e mailed me,,i resized it by 75%
Posted By: Ply36
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/24/10 02:19 AM
about 1,050 for the set. all this talk about the engine, i had to go out today and start it. nice.....
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/26/10 07:23 AM
was that for 8 or 10 ? some times special order pistons are made in 10 units,,,at least they use to be or some one did,,,lol whats the cam you have??
Posted By: Ply36
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/27/10 01:10 AM
that's for eight. if it had been for ten, the other two would have been made into trophies. at least it would seem like more of a bargain that way. As to the cam, luckily it was good enough to be reground by Isky Cams. Here's another interesting story by the shop that did the engine; Ol' Ed Iskendarian himself, now retired, sometimes still likes to come in the shop and run through some cams. When mine came in, supposedly he reground it.
Don't know if it's true, but makes for a fun story.
Just to clarify; the engine builder was in Lansing, MI and sent the cam out to Isky,
Don't know if it's true, but makes for a fun story.
Just to clarify; the engine builder was in Lansing, MI and sent the cam out to Isky,
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 01/29/10 08:31 PM
very kool....do you happen to know the new specs on the re ground cam ?? so if i want a set of 10.1 pistons for my 241 JE now has a mold?? got a phone number or contact person?? and did you get the resized photo of your car i returned to you???? where are you located?? PA here
Posted By: Ply36
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/09/10 01:51 AM
This is from a work order Jan '02, so i can't say if the company info is still valid. Anyway JE Pistons,15312 Connector Lane, Huntington Beach, Calif. You might be able to reference what they did for me with the job order #298446. The phone number shown is (714)898-9763. They also show a piston part # of 196722. Maybe it's a guy thing, but those pistons were just beautiful.
The piston weight is 445 grams, and as mentioned before, comp. ratio is 10 to 1. The cam was reground by Isky Cams for 270 deg. duration and .465 lift. For grind, they show '270-Mega'
The piston weight is 445 grams, and as mentioned before, comp. ratio is 10 to 1. The cam was reground by Isky Cams for 270 deg. duration and .465 lift. For grind, they show '270-Mega'
Posted By: fstfish66
Re: Any "Baby Hemi" powered hot rods out there? - 02/09/10 05:56 AM
ok great thanks,,, i made a copy of what you said,,,