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procharger #512508 10/31/09 05:48 PM 10/31/09 05:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin J jp66charger OP member
jp66charger OP member J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin	I think I have hit the limits on what I want to do with my Charger and am now considering a different direction. I have a very nice 71 dart mini tubbed and roller. Thinking maybe 511 lowdeck with pro charger and indy heads. Problem is I don't know a thing about them. How does it work? Do you have to keep a water tank full all the time? Can a stock block half filled stand up to this combo? Cost??? What compression to build motor? Any advice would be helpfull. I am a year away from starting an engine combo, but already dreaming. Thanks, JP

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512509 10/31/09 06:22 PM 10/31/09 06:22 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 325 Greenville, WI B Big B enthusiast
Big B enthusiast B Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 325 Greenville, WI	Steve Morris at neweraracecraft would be the person to email With Pro-charger questions. SMRE would be good too. That's where Steve used to work Before heading out on his own.

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512510 10/31/09 08:11 PM 10/31/09 08:11 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH B blownzoom440
blownzoom440 B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH	some of the people here have some help for you to figure out what you want.will it be street or race?

Re: procharger [Re: blownzoom440] #512511 10/31/09 08:13 PM 10/31/09 08:13 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	hmmmm i wish i new something. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: procharger [Re: bigtimeauto] #512512 10/31/09 10:10 PM 10/31/09 10:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin J jp66charger OP member
jp66charger OP member J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin	Plan for this car is light weight and race only. Already have one 4260# street strip car, so this one will be under 3000# and shooting for mid 9's. Found a couple articles which helped answer some ?'s. Looks like factory block is out but I don't know that for sure and cannot find a price for one of these kits. Thanks, JP

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512513 10/31/09 10:14 PM 10/31/09 10:14 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin J jp66charger OP member
jp66charger OP member J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin	bigtimeauto!!! That looks amazing. Also like the shoe polish on the windshield. What combo does it take to write a number like that?

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512514 10/31/09 10:15 PM 10/31/09 10:15 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Plan for this car is light weight and race only. Already have one 4260# street strip car, so this one will be under 3000# and shooting for mid 9's. Found a couple articles which helped answer some ?'s. Looks like factory block is out but I don't know that for sure and cannot find a price for one of these kits. Thanks, JP Under 3000 and mid 9's you can do NA about 800hp crankshaft. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512515 10/31/09 10:16 PM 10/31/09 10:16 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	be prepared to spend what seems like endless amounts of money. They work though

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512516 10/31/09 10:17 PM 10/31/09 10:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: bigtimeauto!!! That looks amazing. Also like the shoe polish on the windshield. What combo does it take to write a number like that? 540, 23lbs boost,blow thru, no intercooler and a lot of brake pedal. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: procharger [Re: prochargedhemi] #512517 10/31/09 10:18 PM 10/31/09 10:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: be prepared to spend what seems like endless amounts of money. They work though so true BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512518 10/31/09 10:20 PM 10/31/09 10:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH B blownzoom440
blownzoom440 B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH	Quote: bigtimeauto!!! What combo does it take to write a number like that? 9'0s at 3,000lbs is not that hard.

Re: procharger [Re: prochargedhemi] #512519 10/31/09 10:21 PM 10/31/09 10:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin J jp66charger OP member
jp66charger OP member J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin	Can it be done for 6k? Aftermarket block required? Where to start compression? Thanks.

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512520 10/31/09 10:25 PM 10/31/09 10:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Can it be done for 6k? Aftermarket block required? Where to start compression? Thanks. Ahhhh., nope BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512521 10/31/09 10:26 PM 10/31/09 10:26 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	Quote: Looks like factory block is out but I don't know that for sure depending on what you wanna do a stock block could be used. do a search for "procharged 440" and look at the build engine masters did a few years back. Now in reality that build pulled the pin on the grenade and most parts were at or above what they could handle. I think with a few upgrades you could make that power and more reliably. If you keep a good eye on the tune and don't get greedy (really leanin on it) i beleive stuff will last alot longer

Re: procharger [Re: prochargedhemi] #512522 10/31/09 10:50 PM 10/31/09 10:50 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin J jp66charger OP member
jp66charger OP member J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 134 wisconsin	Thanks prochargedhemi. I'll do a little more research, but can anyone give me an idea as to cost? I know what killpatrick will charge me for turn key 800 and 1000 hp(N/A). No clue what a procharger costs. Not scared to spend money where it counts, but need a place to start planning.

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512523 10/31/09 10:54 PM 10/31/09 10:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	No matter what you build it needs to have a good foundation. A procharged engine or a 1000hp NA will cost the same money then you have to add the price of the blower stuff on top of it. Your goal is easily obtainable NA BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: procharger [Re: jp66charger] #512524 10/31/09 10:54 PM 10/31/09 10:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH B blownzoom440
blownzoom440 B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH	the SMRE site has kits listed with HP #'s then you have the engine to build.

Re: procharger [Re: prochargedhemi] #512525 10/31/09 10:58 PM 10/31/09 10:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 78 OHIO,CIRCLEVILLE 6 68DARTTURBO member
68DARTTURBO member 6 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 78 OHIO,CIRCLEVILLE	I am a PRO CHARGER DEALER and build many combos a small block w/20 lbs of boost will put 3000 lbs on a blow thru carb 8.50s all day!!!! good small block $9,500 F2 w/inner cooler $8,900 good blow thru carb $1,100 8.50 time ticket PRICELESS!!!

Re: procharger [Re: 68DARTTURBO] #512526 11/01/09 12:07 AM 11/01/09 12:07 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 78 OHIO,CIRCLEVILLE 6 68DARTTURBO member
68DARTTURBO member 6 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 78 OHIO,CIRCLEVILLE	Is SM still with RE or is steve somewere else

Re: procharger [Re: 68DARTTURBO] #512527 11/01/09 12:17 AM 11/01/09 12:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,813 Blue Ridge, VA Plumb Wired master
Plumb Wired master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,813 Blue Ridge, VA	http://www.neweraracecraft.com/ Steve Morris's new business. Mike Gray RIP Monte Smith aka: OutlawFish '98 Bickel Dodge Dakota PST

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