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70-74 E/71-74 B-Body rear defroster ? #512179
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Ok, this is kind of an odd question but here it goes. I am thinking of installing a rear defroster setup in my 72 RR. I currently have the dual rear speakers in the package tray.

Is there a factory original rear defroster setup that will allow me to keep the 2 rear speakers and still have the defroster. I thought I remembered E-Bodies having a setup like this but I am not sure.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: 70-74 E/71-74 B-Body rear defroster ? [Re: wayfarer1] #512180
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You need one of these.


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Other cars also just had the defogger mounted to the x-shaped brace behind the rear seat-back. I can't remember which model was like that, but one or two I pulled were mounted there and it looked stock to me.

And also they're defoggers, not defrosters. Not going to melt any frost with those things, lucky if it even cleared up a fogged up window, lol.

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You need one of these.




Yep. I actually run one of those in my 68 Barracuda.

They also came in C-bodies.

In my Barracuda....

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Other cars also just had the defogger mounted to the x-shaped brace behind the rear seat-back.




Really, if that's the case, i never heard, or personally have ever seen anything like that before.
Live and learn i guess.
Sure wish you had a better memory as to what year, make, model, automobile that you saw something like that on. lol.


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Back in day I retrofitted an original blower type defogger into a 70’ RR without using a speaker opening. Mounted it to the bracing behind the rear seat as described above. I can’t remember if I came up with the idea on my own or saw it mounted that way in whatever junk yard car I pulled it from. As long as the air for the blower is drawn from the passenger compartment it will function as designed. I cut a hole through the hardboard panel behind the seat back, corresponding to the blower’s intake to allow for this airflow IIRC.


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IMO Im going to say screw the original defogger.

Too hard to find.

What im going to be doing is wiring up a little electric heater in the back of the car, have it wired into a switch on the dash im going to make up.

It should handle just about everything even ice.

Not sure what wattage im planning on hooking in there though.

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I picked up an original defogger at Spring Carlisle back in the late '80s from a Chevy vendor that didn't really know or care what it was. I just attached the air intake to the brace on the back of the rear seat to keep my speakers.

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Thanks guys for all the info, ideas and picts. I know where there are a couple loaded up early 70's c-bodies in a local junkyard and I will have to check for the defogger in them. I like the idea of the small electric heater to.

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Re: 70-74 E/71-74 B-Body rear defroster ? [Re: hemi71x] #512189
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Other cars also just had the defogger mounted to the x-shaped brace behind the rear seat-back.




Really, if that's the case, i never heard, or personally have ever seen anything like that before.
Live and learn i guess.
Sure wish you had a better memory as to what year, make, model, automobile that you saw something like that on. lol.




There were some Chryslers and or Imperials that have rear heaters and I think rear heated defrosters. There is a seperate heater core back behind the seat. Could he be thinking of that.

I remember Glenn Queley looking for those cars and getting the hoses of off them for his OE Nats Gold Charger. The hoses that runs in the interior are unexposed to engine heat, really protected from the elements, and look really nice.

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all cars but B bodies were with that equipment as an option with rear dual speakers and rear deffoger... some years on ones, some other years on anothers bodies

B bodies couldn't get dual rear speaker with rear deffoger... but they theorically fit.


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Depends on how involved you want to get, but IIRC, the '74 MY cars had defroster glass installed in the rear window (you know, like modern cars, with the heating elements molded into the glass itself). I could be mistaken.

Anyway, if you're going to send power back there, might look into finding a '74 B-body with the heated back glass, and seeing if will come out in one piece. Might also be available aftermarket, also.

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all cars but B bodies were with that equipment as an option with rear dual speakers and rear deffoger... some years on ones, some other years on anothers bodies

B bodies couldn't get dual rear speaker with rear deffoger... but they theorically fit.




I don't think A-bodys had that offset adapter. The one I rigged up fit, but would NOT fly for a factory deal.

Are you sure 71-74 B-bodies could NOT get dual speakers and defrost and have that adapter??

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Of course you could get dual rear seat speakers with the rear window defogger on 71-74 B body cars.
Don't know what that poster was writing about with that mis-information.
All the defogger adapters that i pulled out of cars back in the day when they were findable, all didn't come out of C bodys.
Pulled lots of them out of Chargers, and Satellite Sebring Plus cars. Lot's of B bodys.
B C E bodys, but not A bodys.

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Other cars also just had the defogger mounted to the x-shaped brace behind the rear seat-back.




Really, if that's the case, i never heard, or personally have ever seen anything like that before.
Live and learn i guess.
Sure wish you had a better memory as to what year, make, model, automobile that you saw something like that on. lol.




It was either an early 70's a-body or a mid 70's c-body. This was maybe 4 years ago I pulled it in the junkyard and I specifically remember thinking it was a different spot than I'd ever seen before. This was back when parts prices were so ridiculous and you could get 60 bones on ebay for a nice looking one. Now that the parts prices have busted, I think I've got two of then sitting around here. One of them is even a 2-speed(I think) it has a resistor circuit on it that seems to be setup to be a 2-speed where my other defoggers never had the little circuit on it. hint hint.

But ask anyone who drove these cars ad daily drivers back in the day and they'll tell you the rear defoggers did squat. Need some heat on there to melt the fog and interior heat just doesn't make it back there.

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But ask anyone who drove these cars ad daily drivers back in the day and they'll tell you the rear defoggers did squat. Need some heat on there to melt the fog and interior heat just doesn't make it back there.




I've driven mine daily with the defogger. I put it in when I live in Iowa and parked the car outside in the snow all the time. After I chipped the ice of the front and rear glass and you got in the car it would tend to fog up. The rear defog (blower) did help some.

If you have your car indoors, I don't see it getting used much. Maybe coming home from a late cruise in with a bunch of people in the car (the inside heat causes fogging).

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Of course you could get dual rear seat speakers with the rear window defogger on 71-74 B body cars.





My 74 manual parts catalog DOESN'T STATE THAT PN on B body column. The columns with that line marked are B and J ( E bodies ), not even C bodies, but as I told, years changed the equipment options

thats for 74s... then on 70/71 you find on E and C bodies columns ( note item 1-47-22 )

A bodies info was a confussion, sorry.




Then also needs to state, 71/74 B bodies doesn't have the provision on package tray to one of the attaching points of adapter ( the further one ).

That doesn't mean you can not to fit an adapter, but talking about options available.

I have one adapter to fit soon on my car, but still needs to work on it, remember the deck lid spring bars ARE IN THE MIDDLE, 71/74 B bodies package tray is smaller than the rest... do not know if I'll have room there


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of course I have to say that I'm only based on what I read on catalogs, brochures, etc... and not reallly because perosnal experiences. If some fact is out of these, I can be wrong of course


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