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The autopsy - windowed block #505717
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Dave (DoubleD) came over today and we finally pulled the engine out of the 63. If anyone remembers I blew it up at Clay City a few weeks ago..... here is the fist lil winday on the passenger side to get more air in the block


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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505718
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Needed more air so put a bigger hole in the drivers side



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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505719
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crank looks a lil funny to me


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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505720
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Wonder if it can be fixed



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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505721
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I'm guessing maybe the rods could be machined



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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505722
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I'm pretty sure this caused the problem ----



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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505723
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yep - ya need to keep it bolted down ----


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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505724
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The widage tray took a little beating but Dave said he could fix it


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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505725
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The block is a mess but Dave found a tube of some junk in the garage and said this should plug the holes I'm not too sure if I can agree with him this time


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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505726
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You gonna hang some curtains in those windows?


At least he's got the right color duct tape

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505727
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Now to put my Christmas wish list together ----- gonna turn it up for next year



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Me thanks the rod bearing locked up first, which siezed on the crank breaking the rod which hit the cam, breaking it making it fall down into the rotating crankshaft and ended up lodging, for a nano second, between the block main web and the rotaing crankshaft cracking the block, maybe not sorry for your loss


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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: Cab_Burge] #505729
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Me thanks the rod bearing locked up first, which siezed on the crank breaking the rod which hit the cam, breaking it making it fall down into the rotating crankshaft and ended up lodging, for a nano second, between the block main web and the rotaing crankshaft cracking the block, maybe not sorry for your loss




You didn't get that much heat in the rod journal from a broken main web... The main bearings would tell that tale.. Those rod journals were smokin..

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Wow Russ, Looks like it had it's own little war going on in there...Looks like all you may salvage off of that one is the balancer bolt Let me know if you need any help poppaj

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A little bit of Mighty Putty will fix that block no problem.

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505732
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They sell JB Weld at almost every parts store. Just thinkin' out loud.


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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: ChickMaggot] #505733
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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505734
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that is ugly!sorry this happined.

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: Bigcube] #505735
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I think it's time to go down to the gardening center buy some potting soil and some flower seeds. She's planter material. Dave

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Wow Russ, Looks like it had it's own little war going on in there...Looks like all you may salvage off of that one is the balancer bolt Let me know if you need any help poppaj




i think Russ wants to turn it up next year so i think he probably will pass on the help from you, IMO,
remember he does want to go fast, ouch thats gonna leave a mark.

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: max_maniac] #505737
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The windage tray took a little beating but Dave said he could fix it






I hope the plastic crate isn't a jack stand.....

I'm sure JB Weld and some rubbing compound will have you back on the track in no time.

The blue tape didn't work on Bills transmissions so I doubt it will work on windows. (Sorry Bill I couldn't resist)



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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: Butch] #505738
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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: Cab_Burge] #505739
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Me thanks the rod bearing locked up first, which siezed on the crank breaking the rod which hit the cam, breaking it making it fall down into the rotating crankshaft and ended up lodging, for a nano second, between the block main web and the rotaing crankshaft cracking the block, maybe not sorry for your loss




Cab good guess- cam was still in perfect shape not a mark on it - all other bearing came out perfect - I have seen this before - the main cap was loose it bled oil enough to starve the rod foe awhile then finally ceased the bearing.

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: DoubleD] #505740
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Wow... Let us pray and have a moment of silence for her. Sorry for your loss.

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: 727builder] #505741
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Whoa, what a mess Bummer. I like the Mighty Putty idea. Or, you could just leave that pair of big ends bolted up, and run her as a v/6 Seriously, good luck with the recreation

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: 727builder] #505742
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Wow... Let us pray and have a moment of silence for her. Sorry for your loss.







Dearly beloved, we are gatherd here today to morn the passing of Russ's motor. It was a crusty, rusty old piece that was well past it's prime.



Then agian, so is Russ

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: WILD BILL] #505743
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Wow... Let us pray and have a moment of silence for her. Sorry for your loss.







Dearly beloved, we are gatherd here today to morn the passing of Russ's motor. It was a crusty, rusty old piece that was well past it's prime.



Then agian, so is Russ





LMAO thats funny ! good one Bill !!

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Talk about going out with a BANG....sorry to see the carnage Russ....best-o-luck with the new bullet

PS.....was it wearing a diaper....?????

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PS.....was it wearing DEPENDS ....?????

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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: WILD BILL] #505746
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I got to say when the man tears something up, he sure does it right.

I hope you got your money out of that one, cause as they said, this one is done.

Sorry to see it.

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Talk about going out with a BANG....sorry to see the carnage Russ....best-o-luck with the new bullet

PS.....was it wearing a diaper....?????

Rickster




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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #505748
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Me thanks the rod bearing locked up first, which siezed on the crank breaking the rod which hit the cam, breaking it making it fall down into the rotating crankshaft and ended up lodging, for a nano second, between the block main web and the rotaing crankshaft cracking the block, maybe not sorry for your loss




You didn't get that much heat in the rod journal from a broken main web... The main bearings would tell that tale.. Those rod journals were smokin..





I pointed that out in the the thread last week that he posted, it spun a rod bearing first...

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: Dodgeman67] #505749
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I got to say when the man tears something up, he sure does it right.

I hope you got your money out of that one , cause as they said, this one is done.

Sorry to see it.





This one does not owe me anything. The bottom end was put together back in 2000 and was set up with the MW heads and intake and in my 70 Challenger that I drove on the street for a while. Then it went into my 64 car in 04 and into the 63 in the last year..... It has done well for me and I had fun with it.


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Sounds like it has paid it's dues and ready to go to that great salvage yard in the sky.

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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: WILD BILL] #505752
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How's the heads Russ? You didnt post any pics, so I assume its OK?

Thats a bummer..


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Wow Russ, Looks like it had it's own little war going on in there...Looks like all you may salvage off of that one is the balancer bolt Let me know if you need any help poppaj




i think Russ wants to turn it up next year so i think he probably will pass on the help from you, IMO,
remember he does want to go fast, ouch thats gonna leave a mark.







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Man, that thing is "Don Rickles ugly." If you've got access to a REALLY big oven, and some big boxes, and some sand, yeah, you could maybe salvage it...

Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: bill_greenwood] #505755
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If that cracked main bolt hole is why it broke isn't that why they use aluminum caps?

Of course my thoughts are that is just a result of the rods seizing not the cause. I don't see that causing a significant loss of lube to the rods with out takeing out the main long before


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Re: The autopsy - windowed block [Re: HotRodDave] #505756
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if you think it was a main that got loose first, allowing oil pressure to bleed off at the main bearing, starving the rods for oil, and thus, the spun rod bearing...would a block girdle/main cap system have prevented that?


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