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What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? #503230
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How much improvement are you guys seeing with a electric water pump and electric fans ? HP or ET's
Thanks inadvance !!


65 DART GT RAGTOP mopars "AWESOME" 360 magnum stoker 402 Engine !!!!!!! ROCKS !!!!!!!!!! 11.0's on pump gas .
Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: 65_gt_rag_402] #503231
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When I put a Moroso electric pump motor with the flexalite fan instead of the original set up the Duster picked up .15 in the quarter. Best part was it cooled the car a lot faster between rounds.

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Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: Aspen7695] #503232
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A little over 2 tenths on my SB Dart.

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: 65_gt_rag_402] #503233
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If you use an alternator you won't see much-.05 maybe.

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: 65_gt_rag_402] #503234
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I dropped a tenth by getting rid of the clutch fan, but still using the belt driven water pump. This was when I was running high 11s.
Dropped another tenth w/ an electric water pump when I was running mid 10s.
I've always run w/ an alternator. CHIP

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Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: BobR] #503235
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we did back to back testing with a 360 auto 4.30 setup in the november 08 issue of Mopar Enthusiast

you can read it online at www.moparenthusiast.com

from a stock pump and fan to an electric fan / water pump combo

The mechanical pump fan ran an 11.75 @113

the Meziere electric unit ran an 11.53 @115

they were ran back to back after swapping -

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we did back to back testing with a 360 auto 4.30 setup in the november 08 issue of Mopar Enthusiast

you can read it online at www.moparenthusiast.com

from a stock pump and fan to an electric fan / water pump combo

The mechanical pump fan ran an 11.75 @113

the Meziere electric unit ran an 11.53 @115

they were ran back to back after swapping -




That's pretty impressive, actually.

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: 65_gt_rag_402] #503237
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How much improvement are you guys seeing with a electric water pump and electric fans ? HP or ET's
Thanks inadvance !!


I have tested removing the water pump belt(no alternator, tight water pump belt only) on two different 440 motors on two different engine dynos, 8 HP gain on both


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Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: BobR] #503238
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we did back to back testing with a 360 auto 4.30 setup in the november 08 issue of Mopar Enthusiast

you can read it online at www.moparenthusiast.com

from a stock pump and fan to an electric fan / water pump combo

The mechanical pump fan ran an 11.75 @113

the Meziere electric unit ran an 11.53 @115

they were ran back to back after swapping -




That's pretty impressive, actually.




I was surprised... read the article - Dan is a member here and did an excellent job wrenching that day!

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: Cab_Burge] #503239
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I pulled the PS belt on a 12.90 coronet (440 car) and netted nothing but a stiff wheel. I also switched out the Moroso electric water pump on a 11.90 383 dart for a stock pulley and didn't drop any et. I guess if you get rid of all the belts you'd free up a few HP. Get a good pump.


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Every time I toss a belt ( pump & alt - no fan as it is electric ) I gain .13.


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I ditched a clutch fan for an electric with shroud. I saw no firm gains, maybe a couple hundredths at most. Still running the stock water pump though, I'd switch over if i knew the car was gonna pick up, but I'm not so certain.


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Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: Triple Threat] #503242
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On a chassis dyno I pulled the belt for the fan and water pump and gained 15 horsepower at the wheels(355hp to 370hp), that being the only thing I did. The fan was a flex fan. Hard to believe but they rob alot of power.

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: Cab_Burge] #503243
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How much improvement are you guys seeing with a electric water pump and electric fans ? HP or ET's
Thanks inadvance !!


I have tested removing the water pump belt(no alternator, tight water pump belt only) on two different 440 motors on two different engine dynos, 8 HP gain on both




That's more like what I expected.

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #503244
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I dropped a tenth by getting rid of the clutch fan, but still using the belt driven water pump. This was when I was running high 11s.
Dropped another tenth w/ an electric water pump when I was running mid 10s.
I've always run w/ an alternator. CHIP



The 2 tenths I shaved off was also while using an alt.

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: StrokerPost] #503245
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Years ago with my ld car I dialed in at 10.49, water pump belt blew off at the launch and I went 10.29! I was exstatic driving back to my pit til I saw steam under the hood, now I'm in a habit of watching all my gauges.
Even with an alternator I was running 2 tenths quicker after the changeover, and easier to cool between rounds.


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Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: StrokerPost] #503246
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A little over 2 tenths on my SB Dart.





Same results here on 3 of my cars....
Along with 2 mph gain.

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: Somerdale Flash] #503247
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I just put a Moroso on my SB 2 weeks ago. No passes yet, but it cools the engine down from 180 to 140 in 3 min. I've heard of problems with the Meziere air-locking but the Moroso started pumping right away after filling. [image][/image]

Re: What kind of HP gains with electric water Pump and fan? [Re: 340B5] #503248
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anybody ever tested to see how much ET an alternator will cost you?

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Yes, it is .10 improvement on my car if I turn the alternator off. I have a switch to open the field circuit.


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