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Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? #496267
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Came across this kit. Price seems good but am not sure of the quality.

Anyone familiar with PRW products?
PRW Products

The price is MSRP. One of thier dealers has it on sale for $319.60

I'm willing to pay for quality.
Not willing to save money on junk.

What do you think?

Thanks
Frank


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #496268
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Isnt stainless considered of poor tensile strength when installed in motor applications? I would be afraid of the fulcrum getting warped with a weak metal.

I am not a metallurgist but I dont think too many guys run Stainless parts on their internals


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Pyper70] #496269
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PRW's been in business for years - they're the guys who used to have 2-page ads in all the mags with their engine parts and kits. That said, it doesn't mean this stuff is any good. I wouldn't accept opinions from anyone that doesn't or hasn't physically owned a set. You sure as hell can't tell anything from the picture.

Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #496270
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Regarded by some as a better product than compcams stainless rockers, since they are bushed and wont gall.
http://www.moparstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4186&page=2

Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Stanton] #496271
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PRW's been in business for years - they're the guys who used to have 2-page ads in all the mags with their engine parts and kits. That said, it doesn't mean this stuff is any good. I wouldn't accept opinions from anyone that doesn't or hasn't physically owned a set. You sure as hell can't tell anything from the picture.



Are you sure that you aren't talking PAW being in the mags for years. I haven't read a mag in years so you very well could be right as in your next statement - unless tried there is not a valid opinion.

Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: MoparforLife] #496272
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Are you sure that you aren't talking PAW




I agree, I believe that's who he was thinking about.

Anybody here have any personal expierence with these Stainless bushed rockers?

Thanks
Frank


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Pyper70] #496273
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Isnt stainless considered of poor tensile strength when installed in motor applications? I would be afraid of the fulcrum getting warped with a weak metal.

I am not a metallurgist but I dont think too many guys run Stainless parts on their internals




Yield Strength is 100,000 psi for 15-5.

http://www.matweb.com/search/DataSheet.aspx?MatGUID=567cc80b76ef4f26b927acc002619e46&ckck=1

2024-T6 Aluminum is 50,000 psi:

http://www.matweb.com/search/DataSheet.aspx?MatGUID=ecf8530875cb4ded9675b827f77bfac5


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: mr_340] #496274
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just a page of numbers to me...sorry...couldnt tell you what any of that means but if stainless was a great option for internals and can take 100,000 psi, why dont they make cranks, con rods, and pushrods out of stainless stock? (besides the weight factor)


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Pyper70] #496275
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Yes, you guys are right ... I was thinking of PAW.

Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Stanton] #496276
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Norris used to make quality stainless rockers for Mopars!


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Pyper70] #496277
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A lot of SS work hardens, which is not a good thing under reptitive loading such as a rocker arm, which means the harder you load it to its limit, the harder it gets, and then becomes brittle and then cracks until failure. However depending on amount of loading, it can take a long time. Steel does not have this same property.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Came across this kit. Price seems good but am not sure of the quality.

Anyone familiar with PRW products?
PRW Products

The price is MSRP. One of thier dealers has it on sale for $319.60

I'm willing to pay for quality.
Not willing to save money on junk.

What do you think?

Thanks
Frank




Cheap offshore knockoffs, you will be saving money and giving up quality .

but i'm not sure if COMP outsources their SS roller tip rockers

Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Frederick] #496279
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Regarded by some as a better product than compcams stainless rockers, since they are bushed and wont gall.
http://www.moparstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4186&page=2




when are you guys going to get it? Comp Cams doesn NOT make stainless rocker arms. their rocker arms are made of 8650 chromemoly steel.
the majority of problems with the comp cams rockers is caused from people over torquing the hold downs and ovaling the shafts.

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I havent had a set...but I work with stainless steel on a daily basis...one thing is work hardening...once it happens thats pretty much it..part is done...next is thermal conductivity...stainless will retain heat a lot longer than aluminum...about 15 times longer...it will be stronger but hold heat....plus weight will be a factor...stainless is heavier....me personally I would stick with aluminum...


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: friesza] #496281
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Thanks for the imput guys.

Frank


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? #496282
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Regarded by some as a better product than compcams stainless rockers, since they are bushed and wont gall.
http://www.moparstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4186&page=2




when are you guys going to get it? Comp Cams doesn NOT make stainless rocker arms. their rocker arms are made of 8650 chromemoly steel.
the majority of problems with the comp cams rockers is caused from people over torquing the hold downs and ovaling the shafts.




Comp makes good rockers,I have them and they work fine. Comp would make GREAT rockers if:
1. Bush them! that would help w/the galling issue

2. Sell them w/banana groove shafts! see above

3. Sell them w/some decent hold down hardware(billet), not the stamped stock style crap they come with. That would help with the ovaling of shafts that Dram spoke of.

Comp sells some great/aggressive cam profiles,why not complete the package w/a rocker set-up that can work with them?

Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Dcuda69] #496283
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Quote:

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Regarded by some as a better product than compcams stainless rockers, since they are bushed and wont gall.
http://www.moparstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4186&page=2




when are you guys going to get it? Comp Cams doesn NOT make stainless rocker arms. their rocker arms are made of 8650 chromemoly steel.
the majority of problems with the comp cams rockers is caused from people over torquing the hold downs and ovaling the shafts.




Comp makes good rockers,I have them and they work fine. Comp would make GREAT rockers if:
1. Bush them! that would help w/the galling issue

2. Sell them w/banana groove shafts! see above

3. Sell them w/some decent hold down hardware(billet), not the stamped stock style crap they come with. That would help with the ovaling of shafts that Dram spoke of.

Comp sells some great/aggressive cam profiles,why not complete the package w/a rocker set-up that can work with them?




Because the price would be inline with Harland Sharps


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Re: Stainless Steel Rocker Arm system Good Deal??? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #496284
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i have those on my 493, 1.6 ratio for ~0.560" total lift. they are nice pieces. bushed on the inside. the hold-downs and shafts are nice. they come with a bunch of shims to set up your side clearance, man did i spend alot of time fussing over that. i bought them direct from prw. i did break an adjuster when setting them up so i called them and they sent me a few for no charge. i have put maybe 4000 miles on this motor in my imperial and haven't even had a valve cover off... and i've shifted it at 6500rpm a few times

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Sure look a lot like the old CAT pieces. Hmmm. I wonder if the adjusters are the same???


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Regarded by some as a better product than compcams stainless rockers, since they are bushed and wont gall.
http://www.moparstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4186&page=2




when are you guys going to get it? Comp Cams doesn NOT make stainless rocker arms. their rocker arms are made of 8650 chromemoly steel.
the majority of problems with the comp cams rockers is caused from people over torquing the hold downs and ovaling the shafts.




Comp makes good rockers,I have them and they work fine. Comp would make GREAT rockers if:
1. Bush them! that would help w/the galling issue

2. Sell them w/banana groove shafts! see above

3. Sell them w/some decent hold down hardware(billet), not the stamped stock style crap they come with. That would help with the ovaling of shafts that Dram spoke of.

Comp sells some great/aggressive cam profiles,why not complete the package w/a rocker set-up that can work with them?




Because the price would be inline with Harland Sharps




I understand the price would go up...but a happy medium for street cars would be nice. Comps are $500.00,Harland Sharps are $629.00 w/o shafts or holdowns. I bought Comps and added Hughes holdowns($125.00?) That puts me at $625.00. I think Comp could pkg those rockers w/good shafts/holdowns for less than HS.....and sell a bunch. RAS looks like a great pkg(I think around $850.00?)Maybe Comp could pkg something like that? Just my thoughts...I prefer to deal w/the least amount of vendors as possible.







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