These guys?
http://www.hiperformer.com/engines/dodge-charger-rebuilt_engines-mop_440lb.html

How can they do it so cheap? And since I might need a to pull my 440 for a spun bearing tell me why I shouldn't get one? They do have short block and high-po versions.

That is a good price. Apparently they do alot of volume to keep the prices down. Here's a thought if you want to go bigger. https://secure.pawengineparts.com/500Mop.html

for some reason work blocks that site.... what are they getting for the short block?

$3,495 w/10% discount 'till the 31st. That's for 500 cubes. Not a bad price.

short or long block?

Short. Long is $4,195 w/10% discount.

If you want a smoking hot deal, PAW has their 440 short blocks for something like 2300 right now I think. Conidering that's a machined block, crank, redone rods and new pistons, I don't think you can beat that. Order it and they deliver it to you, you don't have to do all the leg work.

This looks good for a steel crank, factory rods and balancing $2250 Never used them tho...


BLOCK - Seasoned block bored oversized. Honed for moly rings, decked, mains line honed. Painted inside with rustoleum to aid in quicker oil return. Outside of block painted with your choice of factory colors. Fitted with new cam bearings and new brass freeze plugs.
CRANKSHAFT - Steel crankshaft ground on rod and main journals. Micro polished with oil holes chamfered.
RODS - Factory forged rods that have been shot-peened, resized, fitted with new chrome moly 3/8" rods bolts for maximum strength.
PISTONS - Your choice of new forged pistons. Available in the following compression ratios:
L2388F
Apx 7.8 w/88cc head
Apx 8.3 w/78cc head

L2266F
Apx 8.7 w/88cc head
Apx 9.3 w/78cc head

L2355F
Apx 9.4 w/88cc head
Apx 10.2 w/78cc head

L2295F*
Apx 10.3 w/88cc head
Apx 11.3 w/78cc head

Contains everything to the left, plus...

CYLINDER HEADS - Our custom PAW heads completely remanufactured with all new valves, new chrome moly retainers, new valve stem seals, new valve locks, new performance valve springs which will handle up to a .500 lift hydraulic camshaft, 3 angle valve job, new bronze guide liners
Available in:
Open Chamber - Apx. 88.0cc
Closed Chamber - Apx. 78cc - Limited availability - Phone
O/C motor home cylinder head w/steam holes - Phone for availability & cost
LIFTERS - New P.A.W. Hydraulic lifters.
PUSHRODS - New P.A.W. High-performance chrome moly pushrods for hydraulic camshafts.
OIL PUMP- New P.A.W. High-volume oil pump provides maximum lubrication.
GASKETS - New Top-quality Fel-Pro gaskets are included.

PRICE
$3295.00
Special for Oct. 1, 2009 to Oct. 31, 2009
Get 10% off Block Kit & 10% off Additional Parts added to the order.
RINGS - New Moly faced top comp. ring w/premium stainless oil rings.
(*Note: L2295F Piston uses 1/16-1/16 3/16 ring.)
BEARINGS - New Clevite M77 Tri-metal bearings to match crankshaft.
CAMSHAFT - Choose one of our new PAW / Super Stock Industries single bolt hydraulic camshafts.
TIMING - New single bolt PAW double roller chain and gears.
BALANCED - New Assembly custom balanced with pistons fitted to rods.
OPTIONS
Double V/S & chrome moly retainers ......$125.00
.030 block. Phone for availability ...... add $100.00
Optional ground steel crank .......... Phone
New MPP-P5007251 440 steel crank.......... Phone
New MPP-P5249696 cast crank damper .......... Phone
New B&M-10237 440 cast crank flex plate .......... Phone
PC valve stem seals......add $40.00
Rod Options .......... Phone
Cam Options .......... Phone
Harden Exhaust Seats .......... $125.00

PRICE
$2495.00
Special for Oct. 1, 2009 to Oct. 31, 2009
Get 10% off Block Kit & 10% off Additional Parts added to the order.

lefty what company is that?
I guess I should get a PAW catalog.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret.
You can get those engines at those prices through your local AutoZone and NOT have to pay for shipping if you do not mind picking up the new engine and returning the core to your local store.

You shouldn't get one until you pull your motor and dig in to it and see just how much damage you got and do a little failure analysis. Might be a bunch cheaper to fix what you have. Also a good time to tailer it to your exact needs / wants.

When I checked into parts-store re-man engines a few years ago, they left a lot to be desired for us performance folks.

Compression ratios were usually in the low 8s, and the engines were basically built to '78-ish smogger specs. Don't expect to visit your parts store and get a steel-crank, correct cam, correct piston, 440HP for that money.

I would sooner give paw a call, at least that way you can tell them what you want and actually get it.