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68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? #494852
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Wondering mainly about the firewall? What did they do with the box mounting holes and heater hose holes?

Was this an export only thing? Or could you get it in the south.

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: 1hot68] #494853
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Anyone?

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: 1hot68] #494854
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from what i've seen it has a black plastic body plug in the holes


Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: pettyblue440] #494855
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heater delete was avail any where. Was mostly a southern item. There were no holes for box mount on a heater delete car. They didn't get drilled. Black plastic hole plugs where water lines went through fire wall. There is a 67 Belvedere that was ordered in Hawaii new that is in my area. That is what his has. Car is 90% original and could use a resto.

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: Dougsmopars] #494856
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heater delete was avail any where. Was mostly a southern item. There were no holes for box mount on a heater delete car. They didn't get drilled. Black plastic hole plugs where water lines went through fire wall. There is a 67 Belvedere that was ordered in Hawaii new that is in my area. That is what his has. Car is 90% original and could use a resto.





Do you happen to know what they did with the rt side vent....Where the the heater box draws air from?

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: 1hot68] #494857
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There was a box similar to the left side vent box (only made for the right side). This I know because I took my heater out back in the 70's and ordered and installed the box. HOWEVER, I never did find the grill.

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: Dougsmopars] #494858
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heater delete was avail any where. Was mostly a southern item. There were no holes for box mount on a heater delete car. They didn't get drilled. Black plastic hole plugs where water lines went through fire wall. There is a 67 Belvedere that was ordered in Hawaii new that is in my area. That is what his has. Car is 90% original and could use a resto.




This is a little odd , the holes for the heater box mounting would have been been punched at the same time as the heater hose holes , there's no reason to punch the heater hose holes if deleting the heater box mounting holes , these holes would not have been drilled seperately ...

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: JohnRR] #494859
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heater delete was avail any where. Was mostly a southern item. There were no holes for box mount on a heater delete car. They didn't get drilled. Black plastic hole plugs where water lines went through fire wall. There is a 67 Belvedere that was ordered in Hawaii new that is in my area. That is what his has. Car is 90% original and could use a resto.




This is a little odd , the holes for the heater box mounting would have been been punched at the same time as the heater hose holes , there's no reason to punch the heater hose holes if deleting the heater box mounting holes , these holes would not have been drilled seperately ...




I still find it hard to believe that after 1967 or for the 1968/1969 model years that you could DELETE a Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) component or should I say legally delete a FMVSS item. I don't think if it was deleted that the manufacture (Chrysler in this case) did it, maybe a dealer, but being a Federally mandated Safety item I just don't see how it was done legally? I've seen documents where production was delayed to get a Federal Safety compliance certification for a component to avoid the risk of severe Federal fines. Could you get Chrysler to delete any of the (FMVSS) "Standard Safety Features" listed on the window sticker and still have a vehicle that was legal to sell and drive on public highways? "I'd like to order a Hemi Cuda but I want to delete the:

Seat belts
Side marker lights/reflectors
windshield wipers and washers
Energy absorbing steering column
Four-way flashers
Dual master cylinder brake system
Safety rim wheels
Back-up lights
Directional signals
left outside rear view mirror
HEATER WITH WINDSHIELD DEFROSTER (defogger)
and while you're at it remove the Clean Air Emission System it just loses too much performance with it anyway

Maybe on a vehicle that would never be driven on a public highway in the continential USA you could delete all or most of those FMVSS items and maybe you could delete the heater but I know for a fact a method for DEFOGGING (not defrosting) a WINDSHIELD was a Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard that was mandatory in 1969 and later. Did they delete the heater and still maintain a windshield DEFOGGING system? If not then I say a '69 and later vehicle intended to be driven on public highways, roads and streets in the continential USA left the factory with a windshield DEFOGGING system which was probably the base heater/defroster system as listed on the Moroney Label (aka "window sticker") and had all of the holes and mounting for it to put it back in if a dealer deleted it for the owner/purchaser to be driven On-highway legally. Somebody prove it wrong, I can take it. I'll be over here----->


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FMVSS 103 requires all passenger cars, multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks and buses manufactured on or after January 1, 1968, to have windshield defrosting and defogging systems.

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Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: A12] #494860
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cars that went to Hawaii could have the heater deleted , I've personally driven in a 71 6pk challenger that was , the car ws in mass and not haveing a defroster made it hard to drive this time of year .

so could they do it , yes , there was even a code for it ...

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: JohnRR] #494861
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I took the heater out of my RR. Major issues on cool evenings or when it rained - especially since I had also removed the wipers and wiper motor !!!

Anyone want to buy a "heater delete" vent box for the right side ?!?!?

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: Stanton] #494862
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I took the heater out of my RR. Major issues on cool evenings or when it rained - especially since I had also removed the wipers and wiper motor !!!

Anyone want to buy a "heater delete" vent box for the right side ?!?!?




I am definatly interested.

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: 1hot68] #494863
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Anyone who PM'd me about selling my vent box ... please PM me again. I inadvertantly deleted before replying !!

Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: Stanton] #494864
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This '70 340/4 speed 'Cuda was a heater delete car....supposedly 1 of 2 to go to Hawaii....owner now has both of them!


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Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: 1MYTGTX] #494865
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Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: 1MYTGTX] #494866
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I know its not a b-body but heres the block off plate...


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Re: 68-70 B-Body cars with heater delete? Anyone have pics? [Re: Stanton] #494867
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Anyone who PM'd me about selling my vent box ... please PM me again. I inadvertantly deleted before replying !!




That would be me, I'll resend


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