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Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: Quicktree] #490496
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I think it might be safe to say. There are more 9 inches out at the strip today than all other rears combined.

There is a reason for this.

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: Garceau] #490497
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Of course. 9" rears and small block Chevy engines go hand in hand.

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: Garceau] #490498
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I think it might be safe to say. There are more 9 inches out at the strip today than all other rears combined.

There is a reason for this.


There are entirely to many sheep in the racing comunity FORD= "Fix Or Repair Daily", not "First On Race Day"

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Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? #490499
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Plenty of guys running in the 9's with properly preped 8 3/4's..


True...I'v been many of 1.35's 60 at 3350 lbs.with a best of a 1.28 this past weekend

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: racerx] #490500
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Moser Nodular Iron 9" Center Section: $345

Daytona Style Pinion Support & Bearing: $125

Moser Full Spool: $190

Richmond Gear Set: $180

Moser Billet Steel Pinion Yoke: $125

All of the above good for 1000 HP and not even close to $1500

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: 1976 Aspen] #490501
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Moser Nodular Iron 9" Center Section: $345

Daytona Style Pinion Support & Bearing: $125

Moser Full Spool: $190

Richmond Gear Set: $180

Moser Billet Steel Pinion Yoke: $125



All of the above good for 1000 HP and not even close to $1500




Plus aftermarket axles: 325

Cost of the housing itself lets say cheap way junkyard: 100

New ends: 69

We are at $1459 assuming he is doing the labor to cut and fit the rear

streetcar posi:200 over a spool

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: DoctorDiff] #490502
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For the money, I recommend a Strange-60 assy.

This will cost less, and weigh virtually the same as a good drag style 9" rear. Stockish circle track type 9" rears may cost and weigh less, but these are not really any stronger than an 8 3/4".

If you must have a third-member and your car makes torque and hooks up hard, I recommend stepping up to a 9.5" (or larger) assembly. This is what the big boys run.




That's what I did! Thanks again Dr. Diff!!!


Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: gsmopar] #490503
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You can make an 8 3/4 live, but it won't be easy, cheap and the choice of pro gears is one.

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: gsmopar] #490504
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For the money, I recommend a Strange-60 assy.

This will cost less, and weigh virtually the same as a good drag style 9" rear. Stockish circle track type 9" rears may cost and weigh less, but these are not really any stronger than an 8 3/4".

If you must have a third-member and your car makes torque and hooks up hard, I recommend stepping up to a 9.5" (or larger) assembly. This is what the big boys run.




That's what I did! Thanks again Dr. Diff!!!








I am going with another 9" for the Valiant.That is my chassis guy recomendation and that is what it will get



Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: Bigcube] #490505
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The Dana 60 is out because of the weight and changing gears are a pain in the butt. I race 1/8 and 1/4 so changing the 3rd member is no big deal on the 8.75 or 9".



I don't find this a good argument against a D60. Most people don't have the extra coin to have 2 GOOD third members laying around. Seems like a good 9" center will be up around $1500?




couldnt agree more! i hear so many say they want the 9 inch for swapability, but half of them dont even have another pumpkin lying around....in my opinion the dana is the way to go....stronger, eats less horsepower, keeps it all mopar and looks badass with the cover peekin underneath! carcraft did a test on all three of them and they found this info as well...i dont know if i would keep an 8-3/4 in a backhalfed car- as great as 8-3/4's are, if your gonna spend the money on a rearend from scratch for a fast car, then id spend it on a rearend that you know for a fact will give you the least problems

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: blown572dart] #490506
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Another 9"? I bet that tube frame Dart has (at least) a 9.5" rearend.

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: DoctorDiff] #490507
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Another 9"? I bet that tube frame Dart has (at least) a 9.5" rearend.






Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: blown572dart] #490508
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Go with the 9", plenty of gear selection, and so simple to work with, that even a caveman can change the gears.

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Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: B1KILLER] #490509
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In regards to the 8.75", what gives up and makes them go boom? I've always had the understanding that the case flexes and the gears spread apart and this is what's making them let go. So if that's indeed true, does the new aluminum center section stiffen things up enough that if you used a braced housing, would it survive? I'm just curious and hoping maybe some of you guys can give some answers.

Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: dodgeboy11] #490510
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on the 9 inch i've pulled the pinion right out of the case a couple of times. changed to a
D60 end of problems.This was in a 3000 dodge lancer with a 471.running 10:0s

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Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: dodgeboy11] #490511
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Every component in racing has a failure point as far as stress and HP. The 8 3/4 with a back brace welded on before doing any straightening is a good start, a steel cap on the left(drivers )side is needed and setting the gears up correctly(move the pinion back .008 to .012 from the optimum distance helps also, 35 spline spool and axles are needed also These fixes won't make a 8 3/4 bullet proof in a 3600 lb car with really good traction and 700+ HP If you want to swap the ring and pinion gear out around 100 hundred runs it will live that long as proven in many bracket and NHRA class cars. Those that use that maintenace routine normally sell the used ring and piniuons to help pay for the new ones If you want a bullet proof rear end then use the Dana 60


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Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: DoctorDiff] #490512
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Stockish circle track type 9" rears may cost and weigh less, but these are not really any stronger than an 8 3/4".






I don't find a stockish type Ford 9" to be AS STRONG as a stockish type 8 3/4 Mopar rear.
The 9" needs aftermarket parts to stay together IMO, and I say that from experience. LOTS of it.


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Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #490513
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Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: Thumperdart] #490514
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just took my buddies 8 3/4 apart to find 3 teeth on the ring gear missing !! this in a 11.50 dart with a small block street car !! our 10.90 cuda we ran in the 80s and 90s used to break the ring and pinion every 60 to 70 passes like clock work ! 4 times we changed gears till we stuck a dana 60 in it !!! : the car acually 60 ' better !!!!


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Re: 8.75 or 9" Rear? [Re: B1KILLER] #490515
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I currently use all : 70 Cuda Dana 60< Pro street 10 second car. 69 Valiant 9", 8 second car. 68 Dart 8-3/4, 12 second car. My 12 second car gives me more rear problems than I care to mention, my 2 other cars never a problem. Go figure.

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