Re: 1rst, 3rd, and OD in a auto, but no 2nd?
[Re: BlakDak]
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09/30/09 08:17 PM
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DaveRS23
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I've seen this more than a few times. Drop the pan and valve body and see if the strut rod has fallen out. If so, all you have to do is loosen the band adjuster enough to get it back in, adjust the band and reinstall the valve body and pan. Just don't drive it too much before fixing it, it will ruin 3rd gear.
Master, again and still
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Re: 1rst, 3rd, and OD in a auto, but no 2nd?
[Re: DaveRS23]
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09/30/09 10:46 PM
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patrick
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drove my old 904 that way for about 2k miles, no 2nd gear. the tab on the band that interfaces with the strut rod broke off. similar think happened to board member markmullins in his A500, IIRC the tranny shop was able to replace the band without disassembling the tranny.
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Re: 1rst, 3rd, and OD in a auto, but no 2nd?
[Re: BlakDak]
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10/01/09 09:02 AM
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Ledman_70
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Does the truck shift into 2nd if you shift it manually? I had a similar issue with a high mileage 96 Dakota several years ago. Shifted right past 2nd or 3rd, I don't remember, straight into OD. Shifted fine manually. Turned out to be the cable (kick down, I guess) was stretched a bit. I bent the trans attachment bracket for the cable back a small amount and the trans shifted fine after that. Maybe I was just lucky. This truck had 318k on it.
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Re: 1rst, 3rd, and OD in a auto, but no 2nd?
[Re: Ledman_70]
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10/02/09 10:27 AM
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BlakDak
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He thinks he gets 2nd now and then, if you part throtle drive it, it shifts 1, 3, OD, if you hammmer it, it stays in 1rst. *this is what he told me*
I'll go look at it tonight, and see first hand.
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Re: 1rst, 3rd, and OD in a auto, but no 2nd?
[Re: BlakDak]
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10/02/09 05:16 PM
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John_Kunkel
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2nd gear is a function of the kickdown band, if it gets 2nd "now and then" the parts are still intact but it probably needs an adjustment. The kickdown band adjustment is external.
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Re: 1rst, 3rd, and OD in a auto, but no 2nd?
[Re: BlakDak]
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10/03/09 12:00 AM
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Quote:
I drove the truck tonight....
....normal driving...
....1.....3....and OD
the trans will drop back down into 2nd if you increase thotle pressure when in 3rd... too much and it will free wheel
full throttle it will not shift out of 1rst
so is there a procedure to adjust the kick down band without a inch/lb torque wrench?
also it says to back it out 2 7/8 of a turn, would 2 3/4 or 3 be fine?
should I take up the slack in the throttle cable?
Just follow the instructions to the t and save yourself having to do it again. I had to go buy an inch/lb torque wrench at Sears that went down to 72 in/lbs. It was $60 on sale a week ago.
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Re: 1rst, 3rd, and OD in a auto, but no 2nd?
[Re: BlakDak]
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10/03/09 11:07 AM
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moper
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I wouldnt bother trying to adjust it if you find the lock nut is tight. Just drop the pan and see how much of what material is in it.
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Re: 1rst, 3rd, and OD in a auto, but no 2nd?
[Re: moper]
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10/03/09 11:41 AM
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1_WILD_RT
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Quote:
I wouldnt bother trying to adjust it if you find the lock nut is tight. Just drop the pan and see how much of what material is in it.
On one side I agree, but you pretty well know the band is toast anyway & you might get a little more use out of it by simply doing the extrenal adjustment without wasting the trans fluid or dealing with the mess at this time...
Also setting the band will give you an indication by looking at how many threads protrude past the lock nut when the band is set...
Without special tools, just run the adjuster in till you feel it get firm.. Typically it will go from very easy to turn to very solid in less than 1/2 turn... From that point back it off the specified amount.. A mark on the adjuster will make knowing how much you've adjusted t fairly easy & if you miss the adjustment by 1/8th turn it's still gonna be closer than it is now...
With a good band there is normally about 4 threads visable after the band is adjusted.. I suspect you'll have less than two & I wouldn't be surprised if the stud ends inside the lock nut... 
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