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My office will randomly pull carburetors after being assembled and take them completely apart looking for even the smallest of things and then have meetings with the involved department managers to discuss these findings as well as letting them know where other areas have improved.

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OBA - Out of box audit. this should be done on at least 10% of daily production.

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My office will randomly pull carburetors after being assembled and take them completely apart looking for even the smallest of things and then have meetings with the involved department managers to discuss these findings as well as letting them know where other areas have improved.

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OBA - Out of box audit. this should be done on at least 10% of daily production.

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Not my speciality, but what is the 10% based on? Shouldn't it be based mainly on the failure rate on those that are checked?

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Didn't you hear the "assigned" news media say the recession was over and everything was all good?

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We need you on Yellow Bullet "political" ASAP.

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Where's Monte on this one....

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My brother bought a brand new speed demon a few yr before his car was done once the car was done installed the carb brand new out of the box .That thing was so rich we changed power valves played with the air bleeds carb is still way fat and pops and misses all the way down the track install a used holly car runs great .I told him to call Barry Grant they said we cannot help you carbs to old nice custmore service .Barry grant will never get a dime from me and I tell everybody about that piece of $hit carb.Remember 1 bad custmore will tell 100 people 1 good custmore might tell 2 you need to make it right with him over $500.00 for that piece of $hit

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I don't know anything about Holley's finances but I do know that last year I worked with a great guy at Holley to get some carbs for a book and magazine project. This year that guy is gone and when I call the Holley phone number all I get is voice mail hell. There doesn't appear to be anyone there to answer the phone. (maybe I should give BG a second chance?)

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Where's Monte on this one....

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Right here, and as usual seeing that most have no clue about what is really going on. True, we(Holley) filed bankruptcy last year and again this year. But this is NOT a "stick it to the creditors" as somebody posted. This is all about bonds, interest and payments and as mentioned, is a long process. Years ago, when some guy who will remain nameless was the president of Holley and purchased all those other companies, he did not plan for the future at all and assumed that sales would remain at the top. All these type purchases are done with bonds. When sales drop off enough, that you don't have enough capital, to pay the interest on the bond payment, something has to be done. That something is filing for a certain type bankruptcy, which is merely a restructuring of payment schedules and amounts to the bond holders. This allows income to be used to help advance the company, instead of just making bond payments. Holley is doing fine and will be here for years to come. Both Holley and NOS have many new products coming out that will be revealed at SEMA. We are hiring new engineers and it is business as usual. Like my bosss just told me, "we sell millions of dollars worth of parts a month, just not as many millions as in the past". Like I said, Holley is fine and don't look for them to go away anytime soon.

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Figured a call-out was in order to put the rumors and speculation to bed....

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It's typical in restructuring debt to have filings like this. I dont believe it' sall rosie.. somethign tells me the perforamnce side of Holley might be ok but any suppliers of the big 3 are hurting as a result of the pleasure of dealing with them. They mention the Caterpillar deal falling through... I can also tell you, NO company, when it's having issues, will tell it's employees the full truth. Not one. So I wouldnt doubt everything Monte says is fact as he knows it.

As for BG... It will take time before I try again. Of the 4 or so cars that ran them that I had to debugg.. They all had issues from "hanging chads" left from the small hole dirlling in the metering blocks to the obigatory stuff in the bowls. The last one was last year. Took it out of the plastic myself and opened it up. I got a bunch of glitter on my finger. Small bits, almost dust particales but a film of them. Cleaned both bowls out, checked for "chads" and proceeded to run it and it was fine. I do not consider them ready to run out of the box. I applaud your efforts but how about just giving everything a bath after machining? I know chemicals are hard to make use of, but seems like basic washing witha high volume of solution rather than the vibratory cleaning might work better. What I found was residue. Not machining chunks in the bowl.

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Don't know much about Holley's situation but recently I decided to give Barry Grant another chance and it backfired on me.Having used BG's stuff for many years with great success about 6 years ago we had a rash of regulator issues,from missing parts to schrapnal,then came the crap in the carbs,followed buy a match set of flowed carbs for a blower application(nice paper work) but carbs were not even close,not even jetting,followed up by a BG400 that almost cost me my Hemi race car.It's still setting on the shelf as a reminder.At the Mopar Nat's I needed a new pump and bought a BG220 put it on and it peeed all over,got a second 220 to replace it and it did the same.I respect Barry Grant and what he has done for racing and his techonology is second to none but at this point my confidence level is quite low.On a positive note I have used his carbs on quite a few builds with great success after giving them my own"BG Treatment" or "BGR Treatment"Hopefully his product will regain my confidence in future,the man,Barry Grant will always have my respect.

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Don't know much about Holley's situation but recently I decided to give Barry Grant another chance and it backfired on me.Having used BG's stuff for many years with great success about 6 years ago we had a rash of regulator issues,from missing parts to schrapnal,then came the crap in the carbs,followed buy a match set of flowed carbs for a blower application(nice paper work) but carbs were not even close,not even jetting,followed up by a BG400 that almost cost me my Hemi race car.It's still setting on the shelf as a reminder.At the Mopar Nat's I needed a new pump and bought a BG220 put it on and it peeed all over,got a second 220 to replace it and it did the same.I respect Barry Grant and what he has done for racing and his techonology is second to none but at this point my confidence level is quite low.On a positive note I have used his carbs on quite a few builds with great success after giving them my own"BG Treatment" or "BGR Treatment"Hopefully his product will regain my confidence in future,the man,Barry Grant will always have my respect.

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Do you still have the 220 pumps? If so we need to get them corrected for you since it should have been a warranty issue and you can send them in along with a copy of this thread to the attention of the tech department.

How long has it been since you last tried our carbs and had to go into them?

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It has been 4 years since I have tried any BG stuff,the 220 were this year about a month ago.My supplier told me to send them to BG for warranty but recalling a warranty issue from 4 years ago I told him he could deal with it since the last warranty job that was done through a BG dealer cost me the same as a new 400 pump would have cost and the didn't fix the pump.It was returned in the same condition that almost cost me my Race car.That's the one one the shelf that is in plain sight to remind me. After being snake bit a few times,I'am very careful.Also I delt with Barry himself on a 1100 CFM dominator years ago that he said would be my ticket on my Hemi.At the time it was $1200 and the agreement was that if it didn't do what he said I would get 100% of my money back.Well,I went for it and loss 2tenths on my car,loaned to another racer with a 500" wedge and he lost over 2tenths,and tried it yet on another wedge with the same results.Needless to say he got his carb and I got my money back.My stock Holly 1250 dominator with my tweaking is a 1/2 second faster that is on the car now.Don't take this as bashing BG at all it's the plain and simple race experience from the real world.As I have said before I have great respect for Barry and his products and techonology and think he is an awsome person to have overcome so much and yet keeps on developing race engineered parts,his quality control and some of his workers need to be as deligent as Barry

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Don't know much about Holley's situation but recently I decided to give Barry Grant another chance and it backfired on me.Having used BG's stuff for many years with great success about 6 years ago we had a rash of regulator issues,from missing parts to schrapnal,then came the crap in the carbs,followed buy a match set of flowed carbs for a blower application(nice paper work) but carbs were not even close,not even jetting,followed up by a BG400 that almost cost me my Hemi race car.It's still setting on the shelf as a reminder.At the Mopar Nat's I needed a new pump and bought a BG220 put it on and it peeed all over,got a second 220 to replace it and it did the same.I respect Barry Grant and what he has done for racing and his techonology is second to none but at this point my confidence level is quite low.On a positive note I have used his carbs on quite a few builds with great success after giving them my own"BG Treatment" or "BGR Treatment"Hopefully his product will regain my confidence in future,the man,Barry Grant will always have my respect.

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Do you still have the 220 pumps? If so we need to get them corrected for you since it should have been a warranty issue and you can send them in along with a copy of this thread to the attention of the tech department.

How long has it been since you last tried our carbs and had to go into them?

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It has been 4 years since I have tried any BG stuff,the 220 were this year about a month ago.My supplier told me to send them to BG for warranty but recalling a warranty issue from 4 years ago I told him he could deal with it since the last warranty job that was done through a BG dealer cost me the same as a new 400 pump would have cost and the didn't fix the pump.It was returned in the same condition that almost cost me my Race car.That's the one one the shelf that is in plain sight to remind me. After being snake bit a few times,I'am very careful.Also I delt with Barry himself on a 1100 CFM dominator years ago that he said would be my ticket on my Hemi.At the time it was $1200 and the agreement was that if it didn't do what he said I would get 100% of my money back.Well,I went for it and loss 2tenths on my car,loaned to another racer with a 500" wedge and he lost over 2tenths,and tried it yet on another wedge with the same results.Needless to say he got his carb and I got my money back.My stock Holly 1250 dominator with my tweaking is a 1/2 second faster that is on the car now.Don't take this as bashing BG at all it's the plain and simple race experience from the real world.As I have said before I have great respect for Barry and his products and techonology and think he is an awsome person to have overcome so much and yet keeps on developing race engineered parts,his quality control and some of his workers need to be as deligent as Barry

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I don't want this to turn into a BG bashing, but I have to say that my BG280 worked well for a year until I had the car on a chassis dyno. Second run it started spewing fuel.

They fixed it, and it started cavitating. Fixed it again and the whole system went into resonance with fuel spitting instead of flowing in the range my car ran (was fine at full flow). Resonance wiped out several gauges. They couldn't fix it so they sent me a new pump and it did the same. Finally they gave me a BG400 and it has worked well, but it cost me a fortune in all new braided lines.

Also the regulator was incorrectly assembled at BG.

Have to say the customer service was outstanding, but it cost me a lot of money.

I hope for the best for Holley. I think they are a good and very important supplier for our racing industry. Plus they have Monte!