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Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis #481792
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I have a very nice complete 1951 ford coupe that the motor is shot. I also have a 1971 4 door valiant. I put a 8 3/4, 360, 727 combo in the valiant all rebuilt.
Now I know this is a Mopar sight. I'm not trying to start any wars here. But the 51 ford coupe is a way cooler car than a 4 door valiant. I mean a 2 door valiant scamp. Hell yeah. The 4 door just doesn't do it for me.
They are within an inch or so of being the same wheel base. How hard does one think this operation to be. I have the equipment to do it. Please fill me in on the details if you have an experience in body swapping.

Thanks,
Paul

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: 71valiant] #481793
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The mopar is a unibody so if you cut away large portions of the car you loose the structural strength of the car. You would have to weld the ford body to the mopar floorpan all the way around. I doubt the end result would be safe or roadworthy.


The simplest route to take would be to put a mustang II front suspension on the ford frame and then use the mopar engine, trans, and rear axle.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: 71valiant] #481794
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Hate to burst your bubble but the valiant doesn`t have a chassis.
Do the ford right or sell it to someone who will before two good cars end up at the crusher.


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Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: gamagoat6x6] #481795
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Id pay to see this done...


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Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: gamagoat6x6] #481796
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All right guys, quit jerking the guy's chain. There are 4-2" bolt that hold the body to the frame, just lift it off and fit your ford to the frame.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: 71valiant] #481797
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Why not sell the valiant and put that towards rebuilding the flathead? It won't run like a pro stock or anything but a 51 Ford with a warmed up flathead would be a cool cruiser.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: MoparJoe] #481798
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Everyone's dying to get there hands on a 4 door valiant.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: 71valiant] #481799
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A swap that I've seen done on several trucks of that era (don't know how it will work on your coupe), is to weld 4 brackets to the frame and mount a Volare K frame with the transverse torsion bars. Has motor mounts steering and suspension all in one unit.

Randy

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: Thackdaddy] #481800
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Quote:

All right guys, quit jerking the guy's chain. There are 4-2" bolt that hold the body to the frame, just lift it off and fit your ford to the frame.




You are kidding, right?


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Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: Thackdaddy] #481801
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Quote:

All right guys, quit jerking the guy's chain. There are 4-2" bolt that hold the body to the frame, just lift it off and fit your ford to the frame.



You do realize that is a very wrong statement don't you? A bodies don't have a frame to unbolt.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: stumpy] #481802
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The K-member is commonly known as the "frame" on unibody cars (check a broadcast sheet) so the guy is technically right, four bolts.


That said, the proposed swap would ruin two cars.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: Alaskan_TA] #481803
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The term frame normally means a complete frame for the body not an engine cradle. So he is still wrong.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: stumpy] #481804
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I'll agree to disagree.

Chrysler called the k-member the frame. In the frame box pictured are the last two digits of the part number for the k-member. This example is from line 4 of a 1970 broadcast sheet.

So, to me, the guy that mentioned the four bolts is just more in tune with how Chrysler did things than most.

The frame is not the same as the chassis on these cars.

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Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: 71valiant] #481805
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As said, the valiant stuff won't work

Old school trick was to use a volare clip on one of these old rigs to make them work, but there are much better options these days.

These days, using 07 and newer crown vic stuff is very popular. I have installed a crown vic clip on my 49 fargo. It cost me very little

before install


Mocked up with some blocks



It's bolted in here, with some channel. bolted together BB for mockup as well



Another



From inside the cab



The rig



Excuse the blurrrr


Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: Thackdaddy] #481806
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Quote:

All right guys, quit jerking the guy's chain. There are 4-2" bolt that hold the body to the frame, just lift it off and fit your ford to the frame.




You can use those same 4 bolts to attach the Ford body.


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Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: rbstroker] #481807
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A friend had a 50 Merc.He pulled the body and stuck it on an Olds Cutlass frame.Was almost a drop on.Rocky


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Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: 71valiant] #481808
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FIX THE FLATHEAD V8!

I love the '49-'51 Fords when they still have a flathead in them. Build it with some aluminum heads and double or tripple 97s. I got hooked on them when I saw Robert Mitchem in 'Thunder Road' when I was a kid.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: 71valiant] #481809
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Your best bet would be to fab up some motor mounts and X-member and then drop the mopar stuff in.


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Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: Mr.Yuck] #481810
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Sell me the 51, that was my first car in 1965.

Re: Puting a 1951 ford coupe body on 1971 valiant chassis [Re: B5 Bee] #481811
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Quote:

FIX THE FLATHEAD V8!

I love the '49-'51 Fords when they still have a flathead in them. Build it with some aluminum heads and double or tripple 97s. I got hooked on them when I saw Robert Mitchem in 'Thunder Road' when I was a kid.




Its a buisness coupe with a flat head six and 3 on the tree. Its a family heirloom really. My great uncle bought it new. I guess I gota restore it the right way, but thats a long way off $$$$$$$

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