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i'm going to try and finish my street car up this winter, but i'm wanting to go to the track just to have some fun - i expect mid 12s...idk. 71 satellite, 9:1 440 around 400 HP at the crank (est. based on others' numbers), 727, rear undetermined as right now it has highway gears - wanting something more, but not too radical maybe 3.73s. it's a street car, so i'm not expecting anything more than average or close-to-stock numbers.

anyhow, curious if there is anything on the car i need to have done for them to let me run. most likely be going to Eddyville or Humboldt here in IA. being in the slower area, i wouldn't need a cage, harness, trans blanket, etc. would i?

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seat belts and a helmet probally will get you in and down the track, unless you run slicks then you will need a driveshaft loop also. Call your local track and ask to speak to one of the tech people who actually tech cars at the track and ask them to be sure what they want you to have


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Re: rules for racing [Re: landon1] #478744
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Helmet, long pants, maybe a long sleeve shirt but not positive, seat belts, no antifreeze at most tracks, maybe a neutral safety.......... I'm sure someone else can add more.


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certified Helmet (DOT don't count) and seat belt. OEM belt OK to 11.5. drop loop is a good idea, a must if you are running slicks.
Humbolt has a track???
Get down there 2 or 3 times a year to pick up grain trailers.
Expect to be making another trip yet this fall. Geuss that there is a couple sitting there waiting.

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Neutral safety is a must. Also, has your battery been relocated or is it stock. If it's in the trunk you need a master cut off.

If you can, go to the track this season and just watch to see how everything gets done and you can talk to a tech official while your there.

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pretty sure there's still one in humboldt...most go to eddyville, though

right now i have universal non-retractable 3 point belts? think that's enough - it was supposed to just be a cheap temporary fix, since i had no belts when i got the car 6 years ago and haven't upgraded in that area.

"certified helmet"? where to get - jr motorsports or another of the other circle track stores around?


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battery was my other question - it's in stock location - j-bolt set-up okay? i was planning on installing a battery disconnect just for security reasons - same thing, or not so much?

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Re: rules for racing [Re: landon1] #478748
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The disconnect is not the same as a kill switch but if it's in the stock location the switch is not required. J bolts are supposed to be welded closed but I imagine that if it all appears stock it wont raise an eyebrow.

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if you are going to be doing any burn outs(thier fun even if you dont need to)get atleast a tranny blanket.

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welded so that they don't come out of the holes in the tray you mean? i don't have that set-up right now - currently have metal band bolted to tray that runs over the battery and is then bolted to inner fender.

currently have a toggle set-up to control vehicle functions including ignition with push-button start.

i see they sell just the lap portion of a harness, which you can add on-to later. would a 2-point set-up work since i don't have a cage or roll-bar?

the neutral safety switch...couple question regarding this. with my new wiring harness it has a wire for this - it just connects to stock one and done, right? i've never messed with it or paid any attention to it, and car is at my dad's shop. i've been looking at shifters and they all seem to include a NSS - do you need to replace it when changing shifters, or just as a "cheap insurance" thing?

thanks for the help guys


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Sounds like if you got entry money you can race at Humbolt.

http://www.humboldtcountydragway.com/wp/racing-101/

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Tech at Humboldt?? I have seen guys in t-shirts and shorts running low 6's there.

Be sure to have an coolant overflow jug.
Anti-freeze will be OK at your speed but they will still yell at you if you get it on the track.
OEM battery hold down will be fine.
You should have a Snell 2000 rated helmet or newer.
Do your burnout in 2nd and/or 3rd gear.
OEM seat belts are OK if you don't have a roll bar.
OEM neutral safety switch as long as it works properly.

Come to Eddyville for the Fall Classic on October 17,18.
493Dart and I will be giving the locals a bad thrashing.

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lol i think i've seen the sign for humboldt while delivering freight up there - just out in the middle of a field - signs done in wood with paint, but that could have been somewhere else

how do you know if the NSS works? i'm not using the stock starting procedure - key is only used to unlock the column. run toggle for ignition and button to start, or does that even matter?


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Re: rules for racing [Re: landon1] #478754
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Just make sure you can start the car in Park or Neutral ONLY!

Humboldt:
No running water.
You don't write your dial-in on your car, you tell them in the tower.
There are no win lights or scoreboards. You walk up to the tower and get your time slip to see if you won.
The track runs to the west. First round you will see 4 amber lights. You have to determine which one is the sun!
Track is not prepped very well. Don't slide off in the first 100 feet or you will hit fenceposts.

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sounds good

does catch can need to have some sort of approval on it as well?


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As long as th button only turns the starter in park and nuetral you're OK.

If your in any gear and can engage the starter you need to get that fixed.

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does catch can need to have some sort of approval on it as well?




Nope, I use a large Windex bottle on my GTX.


Come up to Cedar Falls. You will have more fun on the 1/4 mile.

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didn't know about CF...not any closer, but one more option


back to NSS - if i try to start in gear, wouldn't something bad happen, like a broken starter?


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A broken starter would be the least of your problems.
Your car will take off if you start it in gear, forward or reverse.
Many bad accidents happen because of this.

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so how would it be tested then? with a multi-meter possibly? i'm re-wiring car completely - i could just go ahead and replace the stock unit and wire it, then it should be good to go


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You can make sure it working by trying to start the engine in gear with your foot on the brake. This will not hurt the starter.

Accidents happen when you do not realize the car is in gear and then start it.

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