Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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Ran a couple index races on a pro tree light this year and it seemed I was late more often than not. The last pass, I decided to take a shot at the tree, staging only slightly deep, but limiting myself by thinking "click-bang" when both cars were staged. I guess I got a little anxious and just went bang, and of course red. So my question is what methods do others use, and what is the standard(if any) delay between the starter pushing the button and the light.
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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Shorter front tires at max air pressure. Limit front end travel. Higher launch rpm. If trans brake, use fastest button you can get. When you stage, be amped up and don't think about or look at anything but that tree.
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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Shorter front tires at max air pressure. Limit front end travel. Higher launch rpm. If trans brake, use fastest button you can get. When you stage, be amped up and don't think about or look at anything but that tree.
X2. I had my first heads up final a couple weeks ago, and wanted it bad! .026 light and the win. Usually 2 seconds from when the starter sees both staged, but I wouldn't sit there and count, just concentrate, like is mentioned above. If your good you can also bump in further, but be careful and expect a slight loss in ET.
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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Depends on how quick your car reacts. This year starters are a little slower on hitting the button, making it harder to take a shot at the tree and get a green light. At KCIR 2 weeks ago, I had to reds in qualifying, and I saw the yellows flash before I let the button fly. A friend who was on the line said that the altered picked the tires out of the beam on the second pass.
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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Practice tree might be a good idea! At least there's a T&T the day before the next index race.
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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I can only imagine foot braking a .400 tree as being extremely difficult
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exactly, with a low hp heavy car forget it.
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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Shorter front tires at max air pressure. Limit front end travel. Higher launch rpm. If trans brake, use fastest button you can get. When you stage, be amped up and don't think about or look at anything but that tree.
X2. I had my first heads up final a couple weeks ago, and wanted it bad! .026 light and the win. Usually 2 seconds from when the starter sees both staged, but I wouldn't sit there and count, just concentrate, like is mentioned above. If your good you can also bump in further, but be careful and expect a slight loss in ET.
X3 I havent done any of the above except the concentrate on the tree, my reaction ranged from .074 to a .095 with no changes to the car, I am sure it would be much tighter if I did the thing's on the list.
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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Practice tree did wonders for me. I know guys have all kind of opinions. My 2 cents, and once you get it down, you will understand what I mean. You must train your eye to talk directly to your thumb, toe, bicep, whatever you need to move. I mean literally bypass your brain, because if your eye tells your brain to move your thumb, it's too late. It's amazing how much I learned with a cheap $100 practice tree. I went from high high .400's to being able to red light once in awhile. Good luck.
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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Practice tree did wonders for me. I know guys have all kind of opinions. My 2 cents, and once you get it down, you will understand what I mean. You must train your eye to talk directly to your thumb, toe, bicep, whatever you need to move. I mean literally bypass your brain, because if your eye tells your brain to move your thumb, it's too late. It's amazing how much I learned with a cheap $100 practice tree. I went from high high .400's to being able to red light once in awhile. Good luck.
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I like the sound of that. It needs to be more instinct than a command from the brain. I just came back from the garage, and looking at all the timeslips, there were a couple .150, a .250,.285 and a couple .500ish. What is considered a good pro-tree light considering one waits to see yellow?
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Re: Pro Tree- How do you deal with it?
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That's what I was trying to get across. You can not wait for the light hitting your eye to filter through the whole chain of command. Some guy's might have a faster hand eye connection than me, but once I got my brain & muscles bypassed, I got .08-.09 quicker on a pro tree. This from a guy that would red light a bunch of a full tree, leaving on the flash of the bottom bulb.
If you don't know what a good light is, I would suggest you look at a national dragster sportsman edition. Those guys are frigging amazing. When I tried to run S/G I always got the .408, .406 guys next to me. I never had a chance with my small tire tank.
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