Dave, Great pics and info! which was just in time and what I needed to see.

I previously read an article in Hemmings Muscle Machines covering the replacement carpet from motorparts south. They rated it as excellent. I was ready to order from them until I read this posting.

While I am sure that MPS sells a quality product, I will now order from ECS as you guys have high-quality products and also know to avoid the shipping issues that cause carpet installation headaches and poor fit. This is exactly what I encountered with another vendor during my resto v1.0

just how much is either of these carpets?i will be ordering a new black carpet for my 74 auto,bucket seat satellite soon and i really dont want this one to fad to a redish tint that the one i bought new 2 years ago for our 71 charger has done
shipping?

I e-mailed ECS about availability and price of a flat shipped carpet kit for my 1964 Plymouth Savoy 2 door post (early b-body). This is the email response that I received:

"Hi, I checked into this and we don't carry carpet this far back in our custom style. Thanks for checking with us. Please let us know if you need anything in the future."

Thanks,
Cindy
ECS

So much for a flat shipped carpet kit from ECS for my car. I called Motor Parts South, and they DO have carpet available for my 1964 Plymouth Savoy (early B-Body). I was pleasantly surprised how reasonable their prices are. They also offered to customize the carpet for superstock style, with rear seat delete and heater delete, for only an little extra.

Legendary Interiors has it and I would guess Kramers too. I need it for my '64 Savoy but just been putting it off. Legendary has it in different tu-tone patterns that was correct for early B-bodys versus solid colors for later models('65 up).

My Goodness Jeff! You sure seemed to have read quite a bit into what we "want" concerning our customers and product lines! Had I known that you were going to quote Cindy's email and then proceed to translate it incorrectly, I would have personally answered your inquiry! Here is what I would have stated:


Hi Jeff,
We do not carry custom carpet for every model year due to the financial commitment it takes to offer product lines outside of our advertised portfolio. ECS has never claimed that we provide "custom applications" for every Chrysler vehicle in existence. The only applications we have committed to at this time are 1968-1974 A, B and E Body vehicles. We also do not to offer every year or variation of automotive decals due to the same limitations and negative economies of scale! It cost quite a bit to develop a line for ANY specific model and investing in areas that exhibit a very small demand can prove to be disastrous for a business! Now if you would like, we could do like other suppliers that distribute "standard" carpet, have it shipped with an inconsistent cut of material, NOT guarantee correct heel pad placement within 1/4 inch and smash the "custom formed shape" out of it when it is rolled and forced into an under sized shipping container!
I am sorry Jeff but we choose NOT to compromise the quality of what we offer to our customers. Your request for this style of carpet is the first we have received! Should demand for this specific model/year increase, we will consider expanding our line to accommodate that style. I hope you can understand our position! Thank you very much!

Dave Walden

Thanks for the clarification, I understand your business position. I guess you never did mention specifically having carpet for every mopar, but I was hopeful you might have carpet available for early b-bodies since your flat shipped carpet is a cool product. I'm sorry you don't have it available for the early B-bodies. Interesting that I'm the very first guy to request availability and price on a carpet kit for an early b-body. Thanks for clearing this up for everyone. I will look somewhere else for carpet.

I'm on the list for 72 A Body carpet...I can't wait

I don't know if it's been posted but what is the cost for a carpet set 69 GTX auto in black??
Thanks Joe

Hi Joe,
We have that carpet in stock and the total cost including shipping is $379. In an earlier post Jeff thought it was "interesting" that we had not received a request for 1964 Savoy carpeting prior to his inquiry. I checked with our other employees and they too had never received a request for that style of carpeting. For the record, Jon Dodds (one of our employees) has stated that there have been a few requests that we were not able to accommodate.

I want to take just a moment to explain why it is difficult for us to offer such a diverse/deep selection of products. Many companies specialize in only a handful of items. They are usually resellers or middlemen for the products that they sell. ECS not only caters to the Mopar Market but also supplies the Ford and General Motors enthusiast with the same type of parts! Our products are VERY specialized when it comes to exacting detail and factory correctness. We manufacture about 98% of everything that we sell. ECS is a manufacturing company as well as a wholesaler, distributor and retailer. While most companies are able to concentrate on just one line of products, we do our best to offer a wide variety of factory correct reproduction parts to the restoration industry! It would almost be impossible to have the product depth within our lines that some expect us to carry.

Today, we had a gentleman call us asking about decals for a 1965 Buick Wildcat. I reluctantly told him that we didn't manufacture products for that particular GM model vehicle! While we do our best to help everyone, I am sure that there are some who are disappointed that we cannot supply their specific needs. I hope I don't read (in another forum) that we don't care about our GM customers because we had to apologize for not stocking an Air Cleaner decal for a 1965 Buick!

Dave, (since we are on a first name basis now), I guess I'm the only guy in the world that is restoring a early B-Body mopar. I seem to notice plenty of guys building 1962-1965 B-Body Max Wedge and Hemi cars lately, who are all installing carpet kits. I also think Chrysler built a few cars prior to 1968.

I contacted you originally because I was impressed with your product which I saw on this same thread. I thought others on Moparts might like to know that you don't currently offer carpet for the early B-body mopars, per the email response to me. Even you say in your response post that you only have carpet kits available for 1968-1974 A,B,E bodies, which I did not know before. Good for you, that's great, I'm happy your making a great product for those cars. But the fact remains that you don't currently offer carpet for 1962-1967 mopars, right?. No big deal, I'll find another vender for carpet in my 1964 Plymouth Savoy Max Wedge, and my other 1964-1967 Mopars. Thanks. -Jeff.

Hey Jeff, (sorry to go off topic Dave)

Are we talking about the same 64 that I saw over at your place when I was in Utah or do you have a different car now? Are you building it as a Hemi or Max Wedge clone? Has it already been through body and paint and you are now installing interior? Love to see some pics!

Dave, this is rediculous, really. I have never once stated anything close to your statement that I, "implied that we must be denying or concealing information regarding carpet inquiries for "early" B Body restorations."

I simply inquired from you and your company if you sell carpet for my '64 Plymouth. I was told you don't, so I thought I would update this post with the info. Isnt that that the purpose of forums like Moparts, to help others with information? Chill out Dave. I'm done with this thread about carpet.

Dave, I'm sorry to cause you stress, thanks for your help in improving the mopar hobby, we all appreciate it. I'm sure your carpet is the best. Lets be done with this already, its not helping anyone. If I restore a 1968 or later mopar some day, I'll buy some of your carpet. Thanks.

1964superstock you have a PM

Listen I hate to beat a dead horse here but ECS claims that they supply carpets for 68 thru 74 A,B and E-body cars, This is not true!!! I will repeat an earlier post that I made and that being that I called them in December of 09 and asked to purchase a carpet for a 1971 Dodge Charger and they COULD NOT SUPPLY IT!!! I was told that all that was for sale is what was left in there inventory and that this was not one of them. I purchased a carpet from MotorParts South and was extremely pleased. I posted pictures of the installation for everyone to see. I have talked to numerous people about ECS and they are a quality company, and I would have certainly bought a carpet from them, but they shouldn't say that they offer a product for a particular year when I know first hand that I was refused. A 71 charger certainly fits the range of 68-74 A,B and E-body! Thanks

in December of 09 and asked to purchase a carpet for a 1971 Dodge Charger and they COULD NOT SUPPLY IT!!! I was told that all that was for sale is what was left in there inventory and that this was not one of them.


I would have certainly bought a carpet from them, but they shouldn't say that they offer a product for a particular year when I know first hand that I was refused. A 71 charger certainly fits the range of 68-74 A,B and E-body! Thanks

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IIRC,.....isn't this about the time ECS was moving their location to another facility?,...Again IIRC DW stated no NEW orders/ inventory on carpet, until after the move,....just what was left in stock was available?.....maybe old age is "settin in", but that's what I remember reading on Moparts?