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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 3:55 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!

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Re: strip 383 [Re: dirtycj5] #468083
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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 4:10 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!




Depends on what you are looking for (e.t.)? Are you going to use the 906 heads?
No matter what you do, I would use a 5.13 gear min. and a 29.5 tire. Wind the piss out of it and it will run good.

I like RPM heads with some porting, about 12.5:1 and a cam like: 254-256@ .050 on a 105lca.
950HP carb, good intake and 1 3/4 min. headers should run very well.


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Re: strip 383 [Re: dirtycj5] #468084
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I'm doing the same, I have a few extra parts lying around and a good 383 long block. So I'm putting it my car to see what it will do. I had almost all the part but the cam.

It is a 10:1(9.91:1 to be exact) 383 with milled and ported set of 452's with 2.19/1.81 valves.I just orders a cam for it from Porter Racing, solid lifter 251/256@.050" .560/.570 on a 106šlc. 1 3/4" headers with 3" pipe. 4500stall and 4.11's That is what I have, we will see how it runs...

Re: strip 383 [Re: Brian Hafliger] #468085
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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 4:10 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!




Depends on what you are looking for (e.t.)? Are you going to use the 906 heads?
No matter what you do, I would use a 5.13 gear min. and a 29.5 tire. Wind the piss out of it and it will run good.

I like RPM heads with some porting, about 12.5:1 and a cam like: 254-256@ .050 on a 105lca.
950HP carb, good intake and 1 3/4 min. headers should run very well.




ill be happy with 12's just wanna have fun at outlaw drags. i have a set of 5:13's in a 489 case but the sg is worn out (one tire fire). i kinda want to stick with the 906 heads i dont really have that much cash to dump in to this project. but it will be ported with those templates. i also have a set or arp head studs and main studs so even some n20 will be used

Re: strip 383 [Re: 440FISH] #468086
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I'm doing the same, I have a few extra parts lying around and a good 383 long block. So I'm putting it my car to see what it will do. I had almost all the part but the cam.

It is a 10:1(9.91:1 to be exact) 383 with milled and ported set of 452's with 2.19/1.81 valves.I just orders a cam for it from Porter Racing, solid lifter 251/256@.050" .560/.570 on a 106šlc. 1 3/4" headers with 3" pipe. 4500stall and 4.11's That is what I have, we will see how it runs...




could you pm me when you try this set up i would love to hear how it turns out

Re: strip 383 [Re: dirtycj5] #468087
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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 3:55 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!




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Re: strip 383 [Re: Defbob] #468088
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wow nice simple set up. your gonna use it with the hot pipes or a intercooler is planed? what size turbos? looks like a pair of bw s300's

Re: strip 383 [Re: dirtycj5] #468089
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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 4:10 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!




Depends on what you are looking for (e.t.)? Are you going to use the 906 heads?
No matter what you do, I would use a 5.13 gear min. and a 29.5 tire. Wind the piss out of it and it will run good.

I like RPM heads with some porting, about 12.5:1 and a cam like: 254-256@ .050 on a 105lca.
950HP carb, good intake and 1 3/4 min. headers should run very well.




ill be happy with 12's just wanna have fun at outlaw drags. i have a set of 5:13's in a 489 case but the sg is worn out (one tire fire). i kinda want to stick with the 906 heads i dont really have that much cash to dump in to this project. but it will be ported with those templates. i also have a set or arp head studs and main studs so even some n20 will be used


How heavy? If you don't know, how much are you stripping out of the car? 383's are weight and parts sensitive. The combo needs to be "matched" unlike a 440 where you can just throw stuff at it.

Re: strip 383 [Re: RemCharger] #468090
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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 4:10 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!




Depends on what you are looking for (e.t.)? Are you going to use the 906 heads?
No matter what you do, I would use a 5.13 gear min. and a 29.5 tire. Wind the piss out of it and it will run good.

I like RPM heads with some porting, about 12.5:1 and a cam like: 254-256@ .050 on a 105lca.
950HP carb, good intake and 1 3/4 min. headers should run very well.




ill be happy with 12's just wanna have fun at outlaw drags. i have a set of 5:13's in a 489 case but the sg is worn out (one tire fire). i kinda want to stick with the 906 heads i dont really have that much cash to dump in to this project. but it will be ported with those templates. i also have a set or arp head studs and main studs so even some n20 will be used


How heavy? If you don't know, how much are you stripping out of the car? 383's are weight and parts sensitive. The combo needs to be "matched" unlike a 440 where you can just throw stuff at it.




the car is striped down just gonna have a roll bar and a pair of seats. fiberglass hood and maybe front fenders if i can find a set for the right price.

Re: strip 383 [Re: Defbob] #468091
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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 3:55 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!




turbos


I would intercool that otherwise your wasting potential power and If Im not mistaken possible detination

Re: strip 383 [Re: Defbob] #468092
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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 3:55 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!




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Re: strip 383 [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #468093
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forced induction will make any 383 seem powerful. you can rev a 383 p/a higher than a 440 p/a since the stroke and rod length are shorter and the pistons are smaller. Theoretically

Re: strip 383 [Re: dirtycj5] #468094
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i have a extra 383 i would like to build it up to play around at the track. i dont want to go stroker its going im my 66 coronet. the car is a 4 speed whit 3:55 in the rear
its a 68 block with 906 heads
what would be a good combo:
pistons? flat top or dome? and what company?
cam? i want a soild been looking at hughes cams but i dont know what i want lol.
thanks!!!!




With the 3.55's, get flat top pistons (KB 162),
906's with 85cc will net 9 to 1 compression,
car weight 3600-3800 lbs, 650 DP, 1-7/8" primary
headers or HP Manifolds w/2-1/2" Exhaust and
crossover. Hughes cam kit HEH2328BL3
With 4.10's, (KB162 pistons), 906's cut to 78-80cc's will net close to 10 to 1. Car weight
3300-3500 lbs, 1-7/8" primary headers (36" long) with 3" by 12" collector extensions)into a 2-1/2"
exhaust system w/2-1/2" crossover pipe. Carb size
should be a 750DP. HEH4246BL3 Cam kit. I would "pocket port" and port match the heads. Use a good single plane intake (M-1, Torker) might be able to use the Eddy RPM (better low/ midrange power). These are hydraulic cams, the solids call
into Hughes for application. May want to upgrade to HD (Six-Pack) Rocker Arms, or Adjustable
Rocker Arms. Try a 50 - 100HP NOx Spray Kit, for a start.
I would NOT go larger without fortifying the combo. Food For Thought. Hope it helps you.
Good Luck !!



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Re: strip 383 [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #468095
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First off ,are you going to run 1/4 or 1/8 mile? That will determine the rear gear ratio, and tire size that you can fit under that car. 513 gear with a short tire for 1/4 mile won't cut it. Also, do you want to buy race gas? if not stay with the stock pistons with the 906 heads.My old 383 ran mid 12's in the 1/4 with bone stock 906's a 525 lift solid lifter cam, 750 holley, edelbrock intake,4.89 gear-4-speed at 3550 lbs Shifted at 6,800



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Re: strip 383 [Re: rowin4] #468096
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100 percent, but direct the post to
dirtycj5. I'm just offering advice on the combo.
By the way, good times with that 383 of yours!!!
I ran 12.9 - 13.0's with mine years ago. Thanks
man.


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Re: strip 383 [Re: dirtycj5] #468097
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Gera selection is supposed to come after cam selection. Everything comes after cam selection. But if you're going to run the 3:55's then the RPM operating range of the cam will need to match the gears.

You will want to start with a calculator for shift rpm/tire size/gear selection for the track length selected. Once you have shift RPM you can get drop down RPM for your gearing in the 4-speed. Now you have operating RPM for the cam.

You'll need an adjustable pressure plate to avoid broken parts.

Unfortunately the 3:55's won't let you take complete advantage of what the 383 can do. Like everyone has pointed out, the 383 likes to spin. That's where they make power. You'll really want it working between 4500rpm and 8000rpm....or so.

Solid rollers and solid flat tappet cams work very well for 383's. They are more suitible for rpms. Forget about hydraulics.

Keep the valve train as light as you can afford. I would stay with the 2.08 valve and step up the exhaust for 1.81's. Titanium retainers. 3/8 pushrods. RAS bushed adjustable sintered iron rockers.

You'll be ahead of the game with longer rods and shorter pistons. 440 rods and diamond makes a short piston to work with the combo.

You'll find no one but Eagle makes an aftermarket 383 rod. It's heavy, but strong, and over-priced. The 440 rod will open up the selection. A 440 source rod and a diamond piston will be cheaper than an Eagle rod and a KB piston.

You'll need valve notches with any sizeable cam. You should get the piston as close to deck height as money allows. You can move it above deck .020-.030" for additional compression but watch for cylinder head interferrence for bores over.030". Some chamber work may be necessary for above deck pistons. You can deck the block to raise compression.

Gear selection should end up somewhere between 4:30's and 5:13's for 1/4 mile.

9x30's should fit and will give plenty of traction.

Re: strip 383 [Re: dirtycj5] #468098
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As Moparteacher said in his post 383's like to
spin, my question to you is how fast you want
to go? You can make great power with a 383 but you
must answer 3 questions. How light is the car? What cam/converter combo you would use? (4 speeds
max launch rpm). How much do you intend to spend?
My previous post was based on what you have to work with (basic equipment). A street machine with
strip capabilities. Moparteacher's post is more of
a "race-tuned" strip machine (street racer). A
very well thought out post. Many more to choose from.


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