Re: 4spd vs. 904
[Re: mrart01]
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09/09/09 08:45 AM
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All things being equal a 4 speed will beat an automatic every time.
1959 Bugeye Sprite 1967 Charger Black L code 1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner 1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM 1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96 1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car 1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85 1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96 1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13 1971 MG Midget 1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57 1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
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Re: 4spd vs. 904
[Re: LAR_414]
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09/09/09 09:27 AM
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Next time your at the track see what every racer is running just about every car will have an automatic in it, i;ll put a auto up against a 4-speed any day of the week..
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Re: 4spd vs. 904
[Re: S/ST 3040]
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09/09/09 12:31 PM
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I'd bet on the 904 over 95% of "833" racers.
I'll second that...
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Re: 4spd vs. 904
[Re: S/ST 3040]
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09/09/09 12:33 PM
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You can't duplicate the torque multiplication of an automatic torque converter with a stick. They are almost always quicker but less efficient. The trick setup would be an automatic that locks up the converter after the launch. You get the best of both worlds. I dont know any mopar guys doing it. I think a lockup 904 wouldnt survive with much more torque than a stock motor at WOT. There are some GM guys with this setup.
1971 Factory Appearing Duster 340 11.000 @ 122 mph
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Re: 4spd vs. 904
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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09/09/09 01:02 PM
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I'd bet on the 904 over 95% of "833" racers.
I went 11 rounds one day and beat a 340/904 combo in the final round for the win with an "833" Gus
Doesn't mean you are quicker or bang the gears any better. Just had a better package.
Back 'in the day' the 4 gear cars were quicker but do to improvements in transmission parts and converters available that no longer is as true as it once was. Also there aren't that many good 4 speed drivers left. Used to see a lot of 4 speed drivers that could bang a gear keeping the right foot on the floor (I could even do it (no more)) but not so many any more.
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