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Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder #451043
08/26/09 06:01 PM 08/26/09 06:01 PM
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i have been trying to get my brakes to work properly on my new car.. using an aftermarket Strange unit with (Wilwood)disc/disc, no res.valve or port. valve either..i have bleed them over and over again and get some pedal but have to pump at least 1 or 2twice to get a decent pedal..anyone having issues or can shed some light on this??? thanks...

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Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: BILLYJAY] #451044
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Hate to mention it , but you probably got leaks in the system.

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Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: chryco] #451045
08/26/09 06:50 PM 08/26/09 06:50 PM
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My guess is you didn't bench bleed it and it has trapped air in the bore. You will never be able to get all the air out bleeding through the calipers. The pedal is night and day different after bench bleeding.
Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: TS3303] #451046
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My guess is you didn't bench bleed it and it has trapped air in the bore. You will never be able to get all the air out bleeding through the calipers. The pedal is night and day different after bench bleeding.



Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: 408strokerdart] #451047
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My guess is you didn't bench bleed it and it has trapped air in the bore. You will never be able to get all the air out bleeding through the calipers. The pedal is night and day different after bench bleeding.







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you need to get all the air out of the master cylinder 1st,
Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder #451048
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Ok, so how do you bench bleed ??? i'm Game.. i'm gonna need them at 150+mph...

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Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder #451050
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find some clear rubber hose that will barely slide onto the threaded portion of the fittings,




I got some spare brake line,,with fittings,,,and cut them,,,bent them,,thread them in,,,to bleed the MC,,,,
fitting's keep it nice and tight,,,no air.
Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: BILLYJAY] #451051
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Ok, so how do you bench bleed ??? i'm Game.. i'm gonna need them at 150+mph...


Google "bench bleeding master cylinder" and you will find a boat load of articles with pics that show what Dave and Doc are describing. A you tube video was also listed in the results of a search.

Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: RedRam] #451052
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so after i bleed the master cylinder is it ok to empty or does it need to keep the fluid in it during reinstallation??? i think i can bleed it where it is if all i need to do is rereun tubing in each section and pump til the air is gone.. once the air is gone how does it stay gone when i remove the tubing and reattach my brake lines???

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Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: BILLYJAY] #451053
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No don't drain the master... Put it back on the car with fluid.. U can also bench bleed in the car.. just hook the line up as stated above and use the pedal. The air that gets in there when you remove the lines will be bleed out when you do the reat of the system again..
Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: 70dusterjohn] #451054
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Ok..i gottcha now.. thanks guys... sure hope this helps...
Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: BILLYJAY] #451055
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Billy, it's been a long time ago since I put Wilwoods on my car but I remember something about having to take the rear calipers off and turn them upside down to get them to bleed correctly. Hope I didn't dream that. Anyone else remember anything like that.

If bleeding your MC doesn't do the trick look into the above.
Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: Blucuda413] #451056
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Blucuda..the Wilwood has a bleed on top and bottom of them.. have bleed both several times.. Just came in from the shop and did the bench blled as described above.. tomorrow when i get someone over to help me re-bleed the lines againand see if that helped... thanks guys...

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Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: BILLYJAY] #451057
08/26/09 10:19 PM 08/26/09 10:19 PM
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did you keep doing it for atleast 15 minutes? try not to let the piston completely return. If your calipers are above the master, hanging them will help too.
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Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder #451059
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I bled mine by myself with a vacuum pump, no bench bleeding. Just kept it filled and worked my way around it several times. Factory disks up front and wilwoods on the rear.
Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: BILLYJAY] #451060
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What is your bore size? Maybe you are not moving enough fluid to increase the pressure to the disk in one pedal stroke.
Re: Trouble with STRANGE Master cylinder [Re: WilliamHall] #451061
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I hope this works for you. I wanna see that car going down track.
I really, really, really love that car. Absolutely my favorite Mopar, bar none!

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