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Summit universal radiators?? #448913 08/25/09 10:47 AM 08/25/09 10:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT C CJK440 OP master
CJK440 OP master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	My Challenger was a 2bbl 318 car and I guess had a small rad support opening. At some point, sombody cut it to fit a 26" radiator in there and did a poor job so I was thinking of ditching the stock type 26" radiator for a cheap aluminum unit. Anybody install a universal radator in a mopar?? I guess I need a Chevy style with the drivers side upper and pass lower hose locations and would have to mount it using the top and bottom brackets so the cut rad support wont matter. 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: CJK440] #448914 08/25/09 10:58 AM 08/25/09 10:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I got this 26" on e-bay shipped for under $200. It has the brackets on it as well as trans line hook-ups. It bolted right to the core support and the shroud fit right on. 5439483-4406a.jpg (65 downloads) [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #448915 08/25/09 11:53 AM 08/25/09 11:53 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	The first question you need to ask yourself ( prior to fit issues ) - is it going to be enough radiator to cool my motor. Fastest 300

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Crizila] #448916 08/25/09 02:54 PM 08/25/09 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT C CJK440 OP master
CJK440 OP master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	Quote: The first question you need to ask yourself ( prior to fit issues ) - is it going to be enough radiator to cool my motor. Sure, but I was thinking a 26" 2 core alum radiator should be comperable to a 3 core 26" brass & copper. Under $200 shipped is not bad but since the previous owner(s) cut my rad support I don't know how well it will bolt up. 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: CJK440] #448917 08/25/09 03:11 PM 08/25/09 03:11 PM
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CJK440 OP master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	Never mind. I found the ones on ebay. Made by Champion? Even if the rad support was cut too big it still would be easier to get a regular mount radiator to fit as opposed to a universal cross flow. Any cooling issues with yours? 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: CJK440] #448918 08/25/09 03:19 PM 08/25/09 03:19 PM
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Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: The first question you need to ask yourself ( prior to fit issues ) - is it going to be enough radiator to cool my motor. Sure, but I was thinking a 26" 2 core alum radiator should be comperable to a 3 core 26" brass & copper. Under $200 shipped is not bad but since the previous owner(s) cut my rad support I don't know how well it will bolt up. I'm not an expert on radiator sizing, but if your 360 is making over 400HP that radiaror will be very marginal - IMO. Fastest 300

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Crizila] #448919 08/25/09 04:42 PM 08/25/09 04:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: Quote: The first question you need to ask yourself ( prior to fit issues ) - is it going to be enough radiator to cool my motor. Sure, but I was thinking a 26" 2 core alum radiator should be comperable to a 3 core 26" brass & copper. Under $200 shipped is not bad but since the previous owner(s) cut my rad support I don't know how well it will bolt up. I'm not an expert on radiator sizing, but if your 360 is making over 400HP that radiaror will be very marginal - IMO. my 440-6 makes 400+ haven't seen an issue yet. Temp gauge stays around 170, might float to 200 right after I shut it off, but drops quick as asoon as you re-fire it. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #448920 08/25/09 05:02 PM 08/25/09 05:02 PM
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Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: The first question you need to ask yourself ( prior to fit issues ) - is it going to be enough radiator to cool my motor. Sure, but I was thinking a 26" 2 core alum radiator should be comperable to a 3 core 26" brass & copper. Under $200 shipped is not bad but since the previous owner(s) cut my rad support I don't know how well it will bolt up. I'm not an expert on radiator sizing, but if your 360 is making over 400HP that radiaror will be very marginal - IMO. my 440-6 makes 400+ haven't seen an issue yet. Temp gauge stays around 170, might float to 200 right after I shut it off, but drops quick as asoon as you re-fire it. From youyr pic I don't think we are talking about the same radiators. Thought the universal Summit rad was a cross flow. Yours looks like a down flow with a bigger tank than the cross flow? Fastest 300

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: CJK440] #448921 08/25/09 05:14 PM 08/25/09 05:14 PM
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Dabee master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,443 Dandridge TN	I� m using the same Champion radiator in my 69 Super Bee with no cooling issues. My engine is 511 CU, 550 hp . It runs 190 degrees on a 95 degree day with a 180 degree thermostat. It should be plenty for your application. 5440174-sixpackhood008.jpg (29 downloads)

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Dabee] #448922 08/25/09 05:31 PM 08/25/09 05:31 PM
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392charger member 3 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 149 Rancho Cucamonga,Ca	dabeast2. I noticed you are runnung power brakes. What cam do you have and how do the brakes perform? Any 1/4 mile numbers with that car?

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: 392charger] #448923 08/25/09 07:59 PM 08/25/09 07:59 PM
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landon1 mopar L Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 565 IA	idk about the summit rads, but i have a chevy-style griffin 19X26 2 row aluminum rad, which cools my 440 just fine. only problem is having to make a custom lower hose (idk how it would be on a small block. '71 Satellite Sebring 440

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: 392charger] #448924 08/25/09 08:04 PM 08/25/09 08:04 PM
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Dabee master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,443 Dandridge TN	The car has never been on the strip. The engine has only been in the car since June. Cam is real mild for the street. The cam card is attached. 5440512-DaBeeCamCard003.jpg (27 downloads)

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Crizila] #448925 08/26/09 08:30 AM 08/26/09 08:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	"From youyr pic I don't think we are talking about the same radiators. Thought the universal Summit rad was a cross flow. Yours looks like a down flow with a bigger tank than the cross flow?" yes mine is down or "normal" flow. I was just saying mine is cheap and it works if he's looking for something on the cheap side. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #448926 08/26/09 09:37 AM 08/26/09 09:37 AM
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CJK440 OP master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	Quote: yes mine is down or "normal" flow. I was just saying mine is cheap and it works if he's looking for something on the cheap side. I found the downflows and they are only a little bit more than the universal for a direct fit. I still might have to fool with the mounting since my rad support was butchered but I'm sure the downflow would be a much easier install. 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: CJK440] #448927 08/26/09 09:47 AM 08/26/09 09:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: yes mine is down or "normal" flow. I was just saying mine is cheap and it works if he's looking for something on the cheap side. I found the downflows and they are only a little bit more than the universal for a direct fit. I still might have to fool with the mounting since my rad support was butchered but I'm sure the downflow would be a much easier install. how bad was it cut? the one I have had the mounting tabs. I guess you could re-drill them to make a custom fit. It doesn't take much to mount a radiator. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #448928 08/26/09 11:24 AM 08/26/09 11:24 AM
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bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	i use the summit radiator in both my race cars,800 hp and they never see over 180 on a hot Fl day going rounds.

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: bonefish] #448929 08/26/09 03:21 PM 08/26/09 03:21 PM
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Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: i use the summit radiator in both my race cars,800 hp and they never see over 180 on a hot Fl day going rounds. Congratulations! Is that 800HP each or altogether? Last edited by Crizila; 08/26/09 04:38 PM. Fastest 300

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Crizila] #448930 08/26/09 07:53 PM 08/26/09 07:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: i use the summit radiator in both my race cars,800 hp and they never see over 180 on a hot Fl day going rounds. Congratulations! Is that 800HP each or altogether?

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #448931 08/26/09 08:34 PM 08/26/09 08:34 PM
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bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	sorry i didnt specify. i forgot i was in the grocery getter section.

Re: Summit universal radiators?? [Re: bonefish] #448932 08/26/09 09:20 PM 08/26/09 09:20 PM
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