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FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS #447884
08/24/09 08:09 AM
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Just put a new fuel pressure regulator on after some fluctuations and the new one is reading the same fluctuations? pump is magnastar pro500 and the new regulator is a magnastar also. I will set the pressure and the next time I turn the pump on it reads something different.

Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: QUIKFISH1850] #447885
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I will guess you have a liquid filled gage - -either replace it with non-filled or drain the liquid out.


67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
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Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: markz528] #447886
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I will guess you have a liquid filled gage - -either replace it with non-filled or drain the liquid out.





Why would a liquid filled gage cause different readings? It could be the gage itself, but the liquid shouldn't make a difference.



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Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: rowin4] #447887
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Mine seems to fluctuate as well,,,nothing to do with the gauge either,,,,
Could a bad ground,,,or some electrical gremelin do this ?
Air in the line do this ?

Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #447888
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I know this sounds crazy but I was having the same issue. The solution was new needle and seats, after trying everything else.


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Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: rowin4] #447889
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I will guess you have a liquid filled gage - -either replace it with non-filled or drain the liquid out.





Why would a liquid filled gage cause different readings? It could be the gage itself, but the liquid shouldn't make a difference.






The liquid expands with temperature and puts pressure on the bourdon tube making it very inaccurate. It is fine if you put a vent hole in the gauge.

See my test below - - the test gauge was a very accurate manometer.



67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: Al_Alguire] #447890
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Could you tell they were bad by looking at them ?,,,(gummed up,,junk in there ? )
Or did you replace them empirically and it fixed the problem....?
I hadnt thought about the needle and seats.....

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No they looked fine. It was a problem I had very intermittently. I changed them after I had another carb that belonged to someone else on the car. He had an issue we fixed and fired it up on mine just to make sure. Rock solid fuel pressure and it had all new stuff in it. I replacd mine and it returned to rock solid pressure.


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Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: Al_Alguire] #447892
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I know this sounds crazy but I was having the same issue. The solution was new needle and seats, after trying everything else.



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Also need to remember that a dead-head regulator needs to be adjusted while the car is running or the settings will not be accurate/repeatable.


67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: markz528] #447894
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your blowing through the needle and seats.
you need to get a product engineering return system to keep the fuel flowing.
it seems to be a problem with the magnafuel & product engineering high flow pumps.

Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: markz528] #447895
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What is a dead hard regulator? I've been having problems with my carb.its either shoot gas out the front,rear or both vent tubes out the carb and this happens even though its sits at 7 pounds but not all the time. I have a new BG regulator.do I need to run the engine with the regulator to get a good reading? or trash in the needle and seat. this carb is new.we didn't have this problem when this carb was on the dyno

Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: Otherlane] #447896
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What is a dead hard regulator? I've been having problems with my carb.its either shoot gas out the front,rear or both vent tubes out the carb and this happens even though its sits at 7 pounds but not all the time. I have a new BG regulator.do I need to run the engine with the regulator to get a good reading? or trash in the needle and seat. this carb is new.we didn't have this problem when this carb was on the dyno [/quote


A dead head regulator is the NON return type... if
its blowing out the vents the pressure is blowing
the needle off the set.... I'm sure you havent checked
the gauge for accuracy but more than likely its
greater than 7 psi... on a known good gauge the needle
can handle about 7 1/2 psi, at 8 psi it can blow the
needle open(this is why we set the pressure at 7 1/2 max
on the production pumps at Chrysler..... I had to
flow a TON of pumps in the fuel lab)
Or your setting the float level too high... but if
you watch the float window(Holley) you might see it
creeping upward or dumping fuel out while open...
which is a pressure issue OR bad needle and seat

Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: MR_P_BODY] #447897
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I have a two port bg regulator but while the car running the needle at 7 and it shoots the gas out.the gas is right at the site level but I don't know where it is while its running.i will check it out when I get home.thanks p-body

Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: Otherlane] #447898
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I have a two port bg regulator but while the car running the needle at 7 and it shoots the gas out.the gas is right at the site level but I don't know where it is while its running.i will check it out when I get home.thanks p-body




Forget the gauge right now.... lower the pressure
on the regulator(way low) and get the engine running
then slowly up the pressure on the regulator till
you get a idea where it will hold at.... then do a
gal per minute flow test(in a bucket)

Re: FUEL PRESSURE FLUCTUATIONS [Re: MR_P_BODY] #447899
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I haven't set the float level since the dyno but I will lower the pressure down and try it while its running thanks for the info pbody







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