Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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08/28/07 01:38 PM
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OK...but if you look at what you can do with your mill for the old "bang for the buck" premise, a 4bbl on top of the RPM is WINNER IMHO.
Best bang for the buck looks to be a $75 25 year old used torker and 850 holley.
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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08/28/07 01:39 PM
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..no kidding. I figured the Weiand Team G intake to be one of the better ones listed.
Team G sucks, I had it on a 383 w/ the large summit cam and it was horrible, i ended up putting a edelbrock performer intake and it ran a lot better. This test just proved my feeling for weiand products.
For what it's worth, the Weiand intakes we tested are really old designs. The company is currently revamping most of its intakes, and the Chevy stuff we've seen from them so far is really good.
DF
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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08/28/07 01:56 PM
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One thing that is tough (impossible?) to test on the dyno is the throttle response. I suppose the shape of the torque curve gives an indication but it isn't he whole story. The big single planes can make good torque on the dyno but sometimes on the street they have a hole in the throttle response. I've found that the Performer RPM really works on the street even if it gives up a few ponies on the top end. I bet the factory six pack setup also works great on a mild motor.
I did a manifold test for PHR a few years back where we tested the Performer RPM against the Victor 383 on my low deck 470 motor. The Victor made a couple of more hp than the RPM on the chassis dyno but it was a dog compared to the RPM in the "punch from a roll" test. The RPM would smoke the tires at will while the Victor had a bit of a bog.
One thing I want to do is to try to run a Dominator on my street car with a dual plane intake. I want to see if I can actually tune a Dominator to work at part throttle and still make the power on the top end. I wish someone made a BB Mopar intake that was dual plane with a 4500 flange but nobody does. I always liked that old C454 intake that Edelbrock made for the BBC motor.
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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08/28/07 03:19 PM
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For what it's worth, the Weiand intakes we tested are really old designs. The company is currently revamping most of its intakes, and the Chevy stuff we've seen from them so far is really good.
DF
Have the fixed their narley casting?
Lol. I've got an old Weiand Team G intake for 383(not currently on motor) and it is a bit of a rough casting appearance wise. Even the floor of the plenum is grainy enough looking that I always wonderred if it might be a bit porous once engine was heated up.
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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i have the rpm on my 383 now. i am about to start spraying it though. wont i see a better gain using a single plane like the M1.
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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Do you have any numbers on a stock 4 barrel 383 intake?
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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Perfect timing, David; this is just the thing to make you go on the "magazine" thread. Still lots of useful stuff going on, obviously. We also had a recent thread on the viability of a six pack on a stroker LA, so although we can't make direct comparisons, this is interesting in that context as well. I look forward to buying the mag and reading the rest of the article. Good work. Dave
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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well i called the big loser right on , but thats only going off info i read on the internet .. i'm impressed wit hthe numbers from the DP4B , i'm glad i recently bought another one .
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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08/28/07 06:41 PM
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Thanks for all the compliments on my street car. I have alot of fun driving it.
I wanted the drug out of a barn vintage drag car look.
Thanks again guys.
Maybe I will send some photos into a magazine.
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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08/29/07 05:59 AM
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We have a winner: "I'll put the overall average TQ and Hp on the 6bbl, then the RPM, then the Torker." rpm.
2500-6000 AVG INTAKE LB-FT HP Six Pack 428 348 Torker 427 348 Perf RPM 425 346 Victor 383 425 346 M1 single 424 345 1x4 tr 425 346 TM6 424 345 DP4B 424 344 Performer 422 341 Action Plus 421 341 Street Dom 421 344 Team G 409 334 Offy 360 406 338 Offy 2x4 408 330 Offy DP 404 327
What's interesting is there is only about a 5% difference top to bottom.
-Daty
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Re: Best Intake for a Street 383
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08/29/07 12:24 PM
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2500-6000 AVG INTAKE LB-FT HP Six Pack 428 348 Torker 427 348 Perf RPM 425 346 Victor 383 425 346 M1 single 424 345 1x4 tr 425 346 TM6 424 345 DP4B 424 344 Performer 422 341 Action Plus 421 341 Street Dom 421 344 Team G 409 334 Offy 360 406 338 Offy 2x4 408 330 Offy DP 404 327
From the Street Dominator to the Six Pack there is a difference of 7 #s of torque and 4 HP
Like anyone will notice that seat of the pants on the street - Sounds like all good intakes on average
However what makes the most HP and Torque say around 5500 - 5800 or even 6000 rpms were most of us might shift gears on our street 383 motors ???
I bet the Street Dominator is close to the top
I would like to see exact #s down low and exact #s at 5500 6000
Thats the great thing about the Street Dominator Decent #s down low for a single plane(Right there on average with the best dual planes)but it really shines on top i bet say 5500 - 6000 rpms
Scott
THANX FOR ALL THE GREAT INFO - GOOD JOB BY THE WAY !!!
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