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Is This Possible? #440660
08/17/09 09:39 AM
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800 hp 93 octane pump gas thru mufflers 540 cid no power adders.

Capable of some street driving, occaisional trip to Sonic, local cruise, etc.

Could this be done with ported Victor MW heads, Victor MW Dominator intake?


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Re: Is This Possible? [Re: MoparMuscle] #440661
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800 hp 93 octane pump gas thru mufflers 540 cid no power adders.

Capable of some street driving, occaisional trip to Sonic, local cruise, etc.

Could this be done with ported Victor MW heads, Victor MW Dominator intake?




Yes it's possible but it won't be very street friendly. My 540 Chevy with ootb Profiler heads/dominator manifold(400ish on the intake flow) and a solid roller cam 670ish/260 at .050, 10.5-1 made about 730 peak HP with a whole bunch of torque(600-725) from 3000-6500. This motor is not real street friendly so the cam and small compression bump that it would take to get your's 800 will make it pretty grumpy on the street IMO.

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Apparently a few similar combos are out there doing the deed already. Street friendly/streetable means different things to different people and my cam is a bit bigger than Bob R`s and idles like a kitten at 470 cubes and runs on calif. 91 garage. My motor is 12.11 comp. and my cam is a solid roller by Isky w/.680-.660 lift and 275-280 dur. @ .050. and is driven often on the street.


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Re: Is This Possible? [Re: Thumperdart] #440663
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Apparently a few similar combos are out there doing the deed already. Street friendly/streetable means different things to different people and my cam is a bit bigger than Bob R`s and idles like a kitten at 470 cubes and runs on calif. 91 garage. My motor is 12.11 comp. and my cam is a solid roller by Isky w/.680-.660 lift and 275-280 dur. @ .050. and is driven often on the street.




Hey Dom, you're a hardcore dude so I'm guessing a pro stock hemi would be mild for you!
Really, though, 800 actual HP through the muffs with no power adders will probably be a bit of a beast.

Re: Is This Possible? [Re: BobR] #440664
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Not hardcore Bob just a little . If I could afford one I`d definately give it a try plus, I love the attention I get everytime I drive Thumper on the street....ESPECIALLY whe I fill er up at the gas station. Good luck to you guys and tell Jason and Doug I said hi. Aren`t you glad you worked things out w/Doug?


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Re: Is This Possible? [Re: BobR] #440665
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A beast is just what I'm looking for.

A couple of 1/4 mile passes and back down the return road would equal a couple of laps thru my town.


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Re: Is This Possible? [Re: MoparMuscle] #440666
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800 hp 93 octane pump gas thru mufflers 540 cid no power adders.

Capable of some street driving, occaisional trip to Sonic, local cruise, etc.

Could this be done with ported Victor MW heads, Victor MW Dominator intake?



Examples of these out there are more of exception than anything else.
It can be done, but most can't do it. LOL


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Re: Is This Possible? [Re: Thumperdart] #440667
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Aren`t you glad you worked things out w/Doug?




We're still working on it-never a dull moment but, yes, I am glad. I was born to race at this level and I love every minute of it. It took a while but I actually think that Doug and I are friends again. Jason's just a cool dude and a great guy. Stay tuned, we're not done yet.

Re: Is This Possible? [Re: MoparMuscle] #440668
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It is possible with the parts you listed, I wouldn't try that with those heads unless they flowed above 380 CFM at 600 net lift. I would shoot for 10.5 to maybe 11.0 to 1 compression(depending on the local pump gas) with a good set of ported 440-1 heads and 440-2 intake with a adapter and a Holley 1050 or a 1150 Dominator I'm going to assume your using a World or Indy Mega block with a 4.5 bore and a 4.375 bore, a solid roller cam around or bigger than 260@.050 on a 110 lobe center put in at 2 to 4 degrees advanced on the intake side Let us know what you do and how it ends up


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Re: Is This Possible? [Re: MoparMuscle] #440669
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Since no one has mentioned it yet, what about using pump E85 for fuel to run a higher compression? Is it available in your area? I would think that 800 naturally aspirated hp would be easier to reach with a compression ratio over 12 to 1.

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Re: Is This Possible? [Re: bigsbigelow] #440670
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Since no one has mentioned it yet, what about using pump E85 for fuel to run a higher compression? Is it available in your area? I would think that 800 naturally aspirated hp would be easier to reach with a compression ratio over 12 to 1.




That's what I would like to do but it's not available any where near me.

Cab, I already have these parts KB aluminum block 4.375, Callies 4.5 crank, 7.0 Oliver rods. I also have a Comp roller .727/.706 283/296 and a custom 1250 Dominator. To lower the compression I'll need to get another set of pistons, the ones I have put it at 13 to 1.

I need to get heads and an intake but would prefer something besides Indy. In another post I saw where someone was getting 405 cfm from cnc ported Victors. Maybe B1's would be a better choice?


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Re: Is This Possible? [Re: MoparMuscle] #440671
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Since no one has mentioned it yet, what about using pump E85 for fuel to run a higher compression? Is it available in your area? I would think that 800 naturally aspirated hp would be easier to reach with a compression ratio over 12 to 1.




That's what I would like to do but it's not available any where near me.



Cab, I already have these parts KB aluminum block 4.375, Callies 4.5 crank, 7.0 Oliver rods. I also have a Comp roller .727/.706 283/296 and a custom 1250 Dominator. To lower the compression I'll need to get another set of pistons, the ones I have put it at 13 to 1.

I need to get heads and an intake but would prefer something besides Indy. In another post I saw where someone was getting 405 cfm from cnc ported Victors. Maybe B1's would be a better choice?




Shoot for about 11.2-1 and I think the ported victors and the rest of your parts will get it done.

Re: Is This Possible? [Re: MoparMuscle] #440672
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9sec Chip is doing it with Hemi heads. says its fine on the street(see the other thread posted to day). I agree, it will be tough with those heads. The good hemi heads flow in the 450 cfm range, and you need 400+ to get to 800 HP. I will let you know how my 540 w/B1 heads is on the street once we get it running. It has 12.5 CR, tho, so i will have to burn a 50/50 mix 110/93 for cruising around. Dyno HP was around 850 w/a custom grind 280 at .050 and .713 total lift w/ 1.7 rockers.

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In the mid 90s, we had a 440 block, 499ci, with 440-1 heads at 3280lbs go 145mph like a clock.

Drove the hell out of it for over three years on the street. It would putt around on 93, but we raced it on 110.

It is absolutely possible.







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