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Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs #435782
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Hey all. I need some pictures of motor plate mounting tabs that you either welded or bolted to the stock frame rails.
Thanks
DC

Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: dc426] #435783
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Hope this helps...

Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #435784
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Mine's ugly, but it works.








Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: mopowers] #435785
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Best I have for now. I'll try to get more later.



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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: DemonDust] #435786
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Not my car but an interesting setup Looks like a 73 Bbody motor mount isolator

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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: dc426] #435787
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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: dc426] #435788
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Mancini Racing sells a motor plate tab kit that doesn't cost much. You can either bolt them in place or weld them in.

Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: AndyF] #435789
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Many weld them in and many bolt them in. Is there any draw back to bolting the angle brackets in?
DC

Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: dc426] #435790
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Bondobob probably has an A-body/A-engine plate and mounting tabs that
go together. He has them cut on a water jet.

He made mine custom to use with the 3/8" plate Brian Smith made me.


Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: dc426] #435791
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The front frame will need a thicker plate welded on, drilled and tapped or weld nuts welded in to bolt the bracket to as the stock frame isn't very thick. so why not just weld on the bracket, just weld it on the back side of the motor plate for easier engine removal.



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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: dc426] #435792
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Many weld them in and many bolt them in. Is there any draw back to bolting the angle brackets in?
DC








your welding the bracket on a thin sheet of metal


by using a long bolt you are bolted to the whole frame rail


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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: Ari440] #435793
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Many weld them in and many bolt them in. Is there any draw back to bolting the angle brackets in?
DC








your welding the bracket on a thin sheet of metal



by using a long bolt you are bolted to the whole frame rail





Are you saying, use a bolt long enough to go through the total depth of the frame? A Pair of 3/8" bolts would crush a frame rail without welding in some sort of support tubes. Back to welding.



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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: rowin4] #435794
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Quote:

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Many weld them in and many bolt them in. Is there any draw back to bolting the angle brackets in?
DC








your welding the bracket on a thin sheet of metal



by using a long bolt you are bolted to the whole frame rail





Are you saying, use a bolt long enough to go through the total depth of the frame? A Pair of 3/8" bolts would crush a frame rail without welding in some sort of support tubes. Back to welding.








It wouldn't take much torquing to crush the stock rail...


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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: rowin4] #435795
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Many weld them in and many bolt them in. Is there any draw back to bolting the angle brackets in?
DC








your welding the bracket on a thin sheet of metal



by using a long bolt you are bolted to the whole frame rail





Are you saying, use a bolt long enough to go through the total depth of the frame? A Pair of 3/8" bolts would crush a frame rail without welding in some sort of support tubes. Back to welding.







I used a flat plate as a washers under the frame rail and tigthened it ,but not to crush the frame rails together


double nutted so it would not come lose


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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: DemonDust] #435796
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Before I welded the plates to the frame rail I used a long 3/8 bolt and a 90 bent steel. I use another flat plate on the bottom of the rail also.. I decide to weld the plate on and do away with the bolts cause I didn't want to crush the rail. It also makes it easy to pull the motor out rather than having to hold the top and or the bottom.

Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #435797
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Rivnuts are a great way to go for this application. Just drill the top side of the frame and install a couple of Rivnuts and you're good to go. There isn't a lot of force being applied by the engine to the mounts. Even if you have 800 ft-lbs of torque that only works out to a few hundred lbs of lift at the mount. A couple of small bolts will hold that just fine.

Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #435798
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Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: dc426] #435799
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A piece of angle iron(2 X 2) welded on the back side
of your engine plate will set works just fine... or
go taller if you need it... but with 2x2 thats alot
of surface area to hold the load. I have a piece of
.090 flat stock welded to my chassis for the plate
for each side... I would also recommend 2 bolts per
side(if the plate moves at all it will bind on the
bolts to eliminate frame flex unlike a single bolt)
also I would use engine limiters with a motor plate
to eliminate any fore and aft movement(a flat plate
in a vertical plane doesnt do much)

Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: MR_P_BODY] #435800
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Quote:

A piece of angle iron(2 X 2) welded on the back side
of your engine plate will set works just fine... or
go taller if you need it... but with 2x2 thats alot
of surface area to hold the load. I have a piece of
.090 flat stock welded to my chassis for the plate
for each side... I would also recommend 2 bolts per
side(if the plate moves at all it will bind on the
bolts to eliminate frame flex unlike a single bolt)
also I would use engine limiters with a motor plate
to eliminate any fore and aft movement(a flat plate
in a vertical plane doesnt do much)





Any pics available showing the engine limiter with the motor plate.

Re: Need pictures of Motor plate mounting tabs [Re: ] #435801
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Any pics available showing the engine limiter with the motor plate.




Sorry no pics but I came off of the engine mount holes
on the block to a tab welded on each side of the
chassis,(1 limiter each side... some use 1 limiter
but I like 2) some use the ears on the trans to the
frame rails







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