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70 Challenger seat spacers ? #431941 08/08/09 11:02 PM 08/08/09 11:02 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 126 Groton, MA. BHuey OP member
BHuey OP member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 126 Groton, MA.	My bucket seats seem like they sit too low and the backrest reclined too much,I have bumpers on the seat backs. The frame rails seem like they are bolted directly to the floor , should I have spacers ? What's wrong here ? 70 Challenger R/T Conv. 66 Vette 427 Coupe 61 Vette FI Roadster

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: BHuey] #431942 08/09/09 12:38 AM 08/09/09 12:38 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	No spacer, but they did sell them over the counter. Have you tried adjusting the seat back bumpers? Just unscrew them to adjust the seat back angle forward. The A&E-Bodies used steel spacers. P/N 2999991 I don't have any pictures of the steel spacers. If you have a good picture, please post it. B-Bodies used steel P/N 2999991 or plastic P/N 2945544, like the ones in the attachment. 5405547-Spacer.jpg (191 downloads)

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: Snoopy] #431943 08/09/09 12:53 PM 08/09/09 12:53 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 126 Groton, MA. BHuey OP member
BHuey OP member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 126 Groton, MA.	Thanks, the seat back bumpers I have don't appear to be adjustable, just 1 nylon bumper on the inboards, and then the seat latch assembly on the outboard. Even if I could adjust the bumper higher then the seat latch wouldn't engage. Does anyone know if these spacers are still available anywhere ? Thanks 70 Challenger R/T Conv. 66 Vette 427 Coupe 61 Vette FI Roadster

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: BHuey] #431944 08/09/09 01:50 PM 08/09/09 01:50 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	Sorry, I was thinking about the hood bumper. Does the seat bumper get screwed in until it is tight against the bottom of the seat back? 5406109-70E-BodyFrontSeatBackBumper.jpg (173 downloads)

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: BHuey] #431945 08/09/09 01:52 PM 08/09/09 01:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	Quote: Does anyone know if these spacers are still available anywhere ? Thanks Hopefully someone will post a picture and dimensions of the correct spacer.

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: Snoopy] #431946 08/09/09 04:41 PM 08/09/09 04:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,194 M MoreParts super stock
MoreParts super stock M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,194	Quote: No spacer, but they did sell them over the counter. That's good info. I'd always thought they were just randomly used. I've been looking for a set for a while. Not any more. Thanky!

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: Snoopy] #431947 08/09/09 05:40 PM 08/09/09 05:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,452 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,452 It's a dry heat	Quote: Sorry, I was thinking about the hood bumper. Does the seat bumper get screwed in until it is tight against the bottom of the seat back? it's adjustable

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: gtx6970] #431948 08/09/09 05:47 PM 08/09/09 05:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder
PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas	I never knew those spacers were available before. I needed to install stereo amps discretely, so I used some 1/2" thick aluminum bars as spacers. As I recall, I had to lengthen at least one of the the seat studs as they weren't long enough to be bolted on from below... kinda foggy now, but I do remember distinctly welding on extra threaded rod. I preferred the seats lower, but I am used to it now, worked great with those Alpine amps.

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: gtx6970] #431949 08/09/09 05:47 PM 08/09/09 05:47 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. Are they used to take the slop out of the seat back.

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: Snoopy] #431950 08/09/09 05:50 PM 08/09/09 05:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,044 At a gas station near you B badblack68 master
badblack68 master B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,044 At a gas station near you	Quote: No spacer, but they did sell them over the counter. Have you tried adjusting the seat back bumpers? Just unscrew them to adjust the seat back angle forward. The A&E-Bodies used steel spacers. P/N 2999991 I don't have any pictures of the steel spacers. If you have a good picture, please post it. B-Bodies used steel P/N 2999991 or plastic P/N 2945544, like the ones in the attachment. My 68 Charger and a good friends 68 Coronet used round spacers made from wood between the seat frame and the floor pan. Both of these cars were factory original cars. I didn't want to deviate from original and made a couple of sets of them for my car and his. I painted them black. I'm sure you could make a set for your car. I used 3/8" plywood and you could use the thickness you need for your desired angle of comfort.

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: badblack68] #431951 08/09/09 06:04 PM 08/09/09 06:04 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon D Dougsmopars top fuel
Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	My GTX had the wood spacers. Also a factory car. When i re did the seats i installed a new set of the plastic spacers. Seat feels much better. Most of the repop guys have the seat spacers

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: Dougsmopars] #431952 08/09/09 07:20 PM 08/09/09 07:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	According to the 68 parts book, both the plywood and plastic were available. The plastic shows as new part number for 68. Maybe it was a mid-year thing.

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: Snoopy] #431953 08/09/09 09:54 PM 08/09/09 09:54 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon D Dougsmopars top fuel
Dougsmopars top fuel D Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,295 dark side of the moon	with the new spacers installed seat feels much better. The wooden ones where squashed and out of shape. seat didn't bolt down square.

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: Dougsmopars] #431954 08/10/09 02:22 PM 08/10/09 02:22 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 126 Groton, MA. BHuey OP member
BHuey OP member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 126 Groton, MA.	Great, that's what I was looking for, so it sounds like the originals were about 3/8" and installed between the seat frame and body mounts. So if my seat is too low and the seat back angled too far, I'd want to put them in the rear of the mounts only correct ? Thanks Snoopy and all 70 Challenger R/T Conv. 66 Vette 427 Coupe 61 Vette FI Roadster

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: BHuey] #431955 08/10/09 02:36 PM 08/10/09 02:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,222 okla. O okie pro stock
okie pro stock O Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,222 okla.	I know on my 70 RoadRunner's bench seat they are on all 4 bolts. I got a new set of E-bag for going back in. Good Luck! Ronnie in Okla.

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: BHuey] #431956 08/10/09 09:35 PM 08/10/09 09:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,547 Puyallup, Wa. S Steve340 pro stock
Steve340 pro stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,547 Puyallup, Wa.	If your seat is to far back, then the seat frame is most likely broken just above where the hinge is welded to the seat back. Every seat I have taken apart has been cracked causing it to look like it is reclined.

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: BHuey] #431957 08/10/09 09:43 PM 08/10/09 09:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida C cataclysm80 master
cataclysm80 master C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida	I don't have the info at my fingertips right now, but a previous thread from some time back on the same topic had some dimensions of the different under seat spacers posted. If I recall correctly, the difference was in the thickness of the spacer, with E bodies being less thick than the B body plastic reproductions which are available. Tav

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: cataclysm80] #431958 08/11/09 06:43 AM 08/11/09 06:43 AM
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BHuey OP member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 126 Groton, MA.	Great thanks, does anyone know where these might be available as plastic or steel for E-Body ? 70 Challenger R/T Conv. 66 Vette 427 Coupe 61 Vette FI Roadster

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: BHuey] #431959 08/11/09 09:43 AM 08/11/09 09:43 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida C cataclysm80 master
cataclysm80 master C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida	That's going to be a tough find, NOS or used only for the correct E body piece. Many people have used the repro plastic B body piece in their E bodies. It's available from year one and probably other vendors also. It's only a little taller than the correct E body piece. Barely noticeable since your sitting on seat foam anyway. Tav

Re: 70 Challenger seat spacers ? [Re: Snoopy] #431960 08/11/09 11:56 AM 08/11/09 11:56 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida C cataclysm80 master
cataclysm80 master C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida	Quote: Hopefully someone will post a picture and dimensions of the correct spacer. I ran across that old thread I was talking about while looking for something else. Here is what Tom Race from R/T Specialties had to say about these spacers. Tav Quote: there were 3 different spacers used 67-69 a body used a thin metal one the 68-70 b-body used the ones you have pictured and the only ones being made the e-body used a plastic spacer about 1/2 the thickness of the b-body

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