Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor!
[Re: BradH]
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08/06/09 10:39 AM
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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor!
[Re: BradH]
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08/06/09 11:36 AM
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I have two systems, FAST with dual sensors and the RPM option and a Innovate LM1 with the RPM and LC1 option which converts the LM1 from a single wide ban to a dual sensor. The FAST had one side failed within ten minutes of using it on a engine dyno test FAST repaired it under warrentee and now the RPM feature doesn'r record The FAST system has memory for one recording session and no provisions to store and tranfer that data to any other device. The good news is the Innovate LM1 failed after a lot of use and it was repaired under warrentee and it still works well That system will store multiple sessions as well as let you hook up a laptop and view the session in real time or store the session in the LM1 and transfer that information to the laptop later. The bad thing about the LM1 is that it is a single sensor system, but they do now sell it as a dual wide ban systemm or you can buy the LC1 add on to convert the LM1 to a dual wide ban system I have not hooked up the LC1 into the LM1 yet so I can't offer any experiences with it yet, the LM1 also has room to add up to five sensors for oil temp or any other option you may want When it comes to tuning the AFR I don't think that there is a perfect ratio for all combinations, I use it to learn from, I lean it( part throtttle cruise, idle and WOT individually)) down until it starts to ping and then fatten it up to stop the pinging or surging at part throttle. The weather and fuel, winter mix versus summer mix, out here makes a difference, the fuel will make the car run differenent and read different Ultimately, for racing, the time slip is the final input on my tuning set up on the carb and timing There are other systems availble now that I have no expereinces with so don't be afraid to try them unless you want to go with a proven system
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor!
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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08/06/09 11:48 AM
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'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor!
[Re: CJK440]
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08/07/09 09:24 AM
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I quite like the look of this: http://www.gtechpro.com/egs.html
Its $300 for the tach and another $230 for the wideband add on?
i was going to get one of those but i ended up getting the LM1
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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor!
[Re: aarcuda]
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08/07/09 09:49 AM
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I quite like the look of this: http://www.gtechpro.com/egs.html
Its $300 for the tach and another $230 for the wide band add on?
i was going to get one of those but i ended up getting the LM1
I also Like that setup and posted up that system awhile back with very little response.
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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor!
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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08/07/09 11:11 AM
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I've got the LM-1 and the analog gauge in my Coronet. IMO the analog gauge is well worth the $ for racing. That way, just like any other gauge, you can very quickly look at it and know if you're safe, set tape marks on it, etc. For me, seeing a digital readout of a # and trying to think about whether that's ok or not while watching the other gauges, shifting, watching the other guy, etc, is too much to do. My analog gauge reads 1 full point lean compared to the LM unit however. This is a common problem listed in their FAQ, they say it's grounding related. I've tried all sorts of things and not gotten it fixed. Not a huge deal, just set the tape marks in a different place and make sure it stays between them.
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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor!
[Re: furious70]
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08/07/09 11:47 AM
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i just looked at the INOVATIVE web site and they dont list the LM-1 in their product page,is it still available or is the lm -2 a replacemet?
Last edited by bonefish; 08/07/09 11:49 AM.
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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 senso
[Re: bonefish]
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08/07/09 11:52 AM
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i just looked at the INOVATIVE web site and they dont list the LM-1 in their product page,is it still available or is the lm -2 a replacemet?
LM-2 is the replacement. You needed a serial port for the LM 1 to work. The LM 2 connects via USB.
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Re: Tell me about installing & using wide-band O2 sensor!
[Re: Garceau]
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08/07/09 11:54 AM
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Im a big fan of a good O2 set up.
Some will complain its 3-400 dollars. I say its still cheaper than 2 weekends at the track trying to tune the carb.
not to mention around here a DYNO session is 150 per hr,
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