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Enourmous hood scoop pan #372697
07/11/09 07:38 PM
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I've been putting off sealing my 6pak hood for 2 years because the carb sits above the hood line, I thought it would be hard to do but I mocked it up with cardboard and it turned out to work fine with a flat piece of aluminum. Thanks for the awesome piece of aluminum by the way MrPbody!
I will eventually bond this to the bottom of the hood with a hole in it for an air cleaner so I can run it on the track the same way as the street but hopefully next saturday I'm gonna track test this huge pan.
I modified the return spring slightly so it won't hang up on the pan at full throttle. I also made a bracket to hold it down to the carb at speed, and I'll be testing jets with the pan too. I'll let you know how it goes!

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Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ProSport] #372698
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I am just in the process of making one for my Dart, the pan is even larger than yours due to the size of the hemi scoop.
What type of foam have you used.
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Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ProSport] #372699
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Looks like it will work good. On my sixpak hood I glued a piece of lexan to the bottom of the hood then used a standard Moroso pan and made a hole in the lexan accordingly.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Gierhed] #372700
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Mine is 32x29. Should be about a tenth quicker.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Hunted Duck] #372701
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A tenth would be great!

I used 1 1/4" air conditioning foam from the local hardware store.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ProSport] #372702
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Mine was worth a tenth and a little over 1 mph. In the cooler night air it really picks up around 1000'.


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: 340B5] #372703
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Is that a .10 from a non-sealed scoop to sealed or from no scoop at all?

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: S/ST 3040] #372704
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.10 from a non sealed six pack style scoop.


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: 340B5] #372705
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My old DartSport had a pro stock style hood scoop, it was narrow and fit nice and close to the tunnel ram carbs, but I still dropped a 1/2 tenth by sealing the scoop.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ProSport] #372706
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I would adapt that air pan to the baseplate of a drop-base air cleaner assy. so you can run an air filter. It also will keep it off the hood. I had one a while back that was bonded to the hood and it annoyed me because it was always in the way or getting beat up from supporting all of the weight of the hood when it was off the car.

Did I mention I love your "new" car?

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Jeremiah] #372707
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I'm working on an air pan for mine too, is the aluminum 0.0625 or is it 0.125 thick. I can't decide if the thinner will be rigid enough.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ProSport] #372708
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that looks nice Bob. it is too bad the carb box was hard to adapt with fuel line,linkages to keep the carb,fuel cooler also.
your pan looks like it will be stable held by the float screws.i am sure you will have good results.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: blownzoom440] #372709
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like other post, try to use a drop base it will help air intake.

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Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ademon] #372710
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--------------------------------------------------Duct tape is kinda ugly, but it keeps the foam (pipe insulation) on. The silicone adhesive kept comming loose. Aluminum measures .077 thick.


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
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I forgot to mention that I used the Moroso replacement foam for the dragster scoop. It was cheap, fire retardant and dense enough to cut with a bread knife. You will probably need at least two of the replacement foam kits, minimum.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Jeremiah] #372712
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Did I mention I love your "new" car?




Thanks, after installing a different motor, tranny, wheels/tires and every nut bolt and bracket on the car I'm finally starting to enjoy it.


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Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ProSport] #372713
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About time you got around to making that pan Bob...
looks good

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: MR_P_BODY] #372714
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gotta make me one too, already have the cardboard template, just gota find the alum. stock


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Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Gierhed] #372715
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Looks like it will work good. On my sixpak hood I glued a piece of lexan to the bottom of the hood then used a standard Moroso pan and made a hole in the lexan accordingly.


Have a Pic.

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Bob is one of those guys thats always tinkerin and trying to build a better mousetrap.


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Looks good Bob

Now lets get a whole 1/4 mile worth of air jammed down that thing.

No more 1/2 track nationals

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Stroker Scamp] #372718
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gotta make me one too, already have the cardboard template, just gota find the alum. stock



Doesn't have to be aluminum; I made mine from some thin plywood (3/16" or 1/4") and it worked fine. In fact, the insulating effect of the wood made it easy to feel on the hood exactly where the plate was underneath --> much cooler to the touch.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: BradH] #372719
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It's been a long time since I checked but I remember when I did, I lost 1.2 tenths when I removed it and gained it back replacing the sealed air pan.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ProSport] #372720
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Bob, back when I had a six pack hood on the cuda, I made an air pan for it that was VERY similar to yours. It was worth a solid tenth and a little over 1 mph in the 1/4.

That carb spacer is on the way. CHIP


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Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: ProSport] #372721
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Looks great! Can you share the dimensions you came up with for the pan? How thick of aluminum did you use?

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Mopar_Ray] #372722
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Looks great! Can you share the dimensions you came up with for the pan? How thick of aluminum did you use?


How thick did you use?


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Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Irun5snd8th] #372723
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Bob is one of those guys thats always tinkerin and trying to build a better mousetrap.




Doesn't always work out so well though. But I do try. I have to keep up with all the smack talkin Rustangs Craparos in my neighborhood.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: 340RICK] #372724
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Looks good Bob

Now lets get a whole 1/4 mile worth of air jammed down that thing.

No more 1/2 track nationals




Soon Rick soon! How's the sinus's? Tammy punch you in the nose again??

I'm ready for the 1/4 if my converter will lock up, I don't like racing for 6 seconds. 1/2 track Nationals.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: BradH] #372725
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Doesn't have to be aluminum; I made mine from some thin plywood (3/16" or 1/4") and it worked fine. In fact, the insulating effect of the wood made it easy to feel on the hood exactly where the plate was underneath --> much cooler to the touch.




Unless it catches fire.

Re: Enourmous hood scoop pan [Re: Mopar_Ray] #372726
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Looks great! Can you share the dimensions you came up with for the pan? How thick of aluminum did you use?




Ummmm, I don't know, and I don't know. Hope this helps you.





I'll get some dimensions tomorrow.

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Looks great! Can you share the dimensions you came up with for the pan? How thick of aluminum did you use?




Ummmm, I don't know, and I don't know. Hope this helps you.

I'll get some dimensions tomorrow.





Bob I think that sheet was .060 thick... but measure
it to be sure

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