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Is this car a FAKE?
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07/10/09 02:20 PM
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lowflyingdart
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There is a LC22R 2009 Drag Pak Challenger on Ebag. It is claiming to be car #12. It was my understanding that only 6 have been built to date. ebay challenger
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
Thomas A. Edison
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Re: Is this car a FAKE?
[Re: slantzilla]
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07/12/09 08:19 AM
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I sent the guy a message on Ebay, asking him somethings about it, and the contract that the racers had to sign with Chrysler to race it  ... Maybe thats why he took it off ebay without any bids  ... I don't have any problems with collectors getting the cars after the racer's fufill the contract's obligations, but when the "racer's" are just trying to make a buck before they finish what the contract says is something I don't agree with. 
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Re: Is this car a FAKE?
[Re: FY1CUDA]
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07/15/09 07:09 AM
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The car is real and was taken off ebay, because it was sold!
Thanks,
Chuck West
As I said before, these cars were built for the racers to have and race, NOT to sell... If the racers are just trying to make a buck, and not care about the sport it's really sad, and they shouldn't be involved in the sport or the hobby in my opinion. There was a lot of engineering along with all the countless hours in negotiations with the NHRA to make these vehicles class legal. The NHRA is on their last leg it seems, and they were trying to help themselves along with Detroit by trying to start some excitement again for the sport and industry like they had accomplished once in the past. It's pretty sad when everyone complains that the factory isn't doing anything for the sport, but when they do, the people can't follow the rules that the factory put forth in order for the sport to grow.. No wonder they are pulling out of everything, I don't blame them. They just went through bankruptcy and actually fought to keep this vehicle in production, and it didn't take too long for greed to get involved. I'm going to give Larry a call this morning and let him know what happened so he can forward this on to John Donato. John is now the Engineering Manager at Mopar Moptorsports, and hopefully he'll contact the person who received car #12 to find out what happened with the car....
This is just a shame.......
Don
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Re: Is this car a FAKE?
[Re: donscuda]
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07/15/09 04:18 PM
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As I said before, these cars were built for the racers to have and race, NOT to sell... If the racers are just trying to make a buck, and not care about the sport it's really sad, and they shouldn't be involved in the sport or the hobby in my opinion. There was a lot of engineering along with all the countless hours in negotiations with the NHRA to make these vehicles class legal. The NHRA is on their last leg it seems, and they were trying to help themselves along with Detroit by trying to start some excitement again for the sport and industry like they had accomplished once in the past. It's pretty sad when everyone complains that the factory isn't doing anything for the sport, but when they do, the people can't follow the rules that the factory put forth in order for the sport to grow.. No wonder they are pulling out of everything, I don't blame them. They just went through bankruptcy and actually fought to keep this vehicle in production, and it didn't take too long for greed to get involved. I'm going to give Larry a call this morning and let him know what happened so he can forward this on to John Donato. John is now the Engineering Manager at Mopar Moptorsports, and hopefully he'll contact the person who received car #12 to find out what happened with the car....
This is just a shame.......
Don
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Re: Is this car a FAKE?
[Re: lowflyingdart]
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07/15/09 06:44 PM
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How much are these cars selling for? It would take a vary lage sum for me to sell mine!
No idea, BUT I posted the eBay link on YB and within 24 hrs it was sold and pulled from eBay....
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Re: Is this car a FAKE?
[Re: lowflyingdart]
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07/15/09 08:24 PM
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Barnstorm
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If I had one of these cars on order,[realizing the mopar situation] I'd be going nuts trying to plan my life. Everyone has another car they race but between answering questions about your new Drag Pak that you can't answer and running your present car.....WOW! I know 4 guys and I see their frustration.
The little old lady from Pasadena is back!
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Re: Is this car a FAKE?
[Re: ZIPPY]
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07/15/09 08:31 PM
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It's for real, I know who the original owner is, I'll probably find out who bought it before too long (people usually just tell me stuff) and Donato doesn't work for Mopar.
It isn't the only one that has been resold, there have been others.
Nobody is really going to get anybody "in trouble" for reselling a car, everyone knew it'd happen and sure enough it is.
Yes, I know that John has left Chrysler and is now running Donato Engineering in Milford Mi. But I do know that Larry Shepard is still with writing for Mopar Performance, and that Jim Sassorossi is stil with the company, I'm sure they wouldn't be happy.
The whole problem is that the cars were not sold by the factory to the original owners to resell.. The factory sold them so a racer could build the car for the different stock or super stock classes in the NHRA/IHRA. With the current economy and the problems in Detroit we should be thankful the company is even trying to build the required amount of vehicles to be class legal, and if some of the people who are getting the cars second hand not racing them those who have bought the cars to race will not be able to because there would not be enough cars registered to run in their classes.
It's plain and simple, if Chrysler didn't care who recieved the cars they would have not required the racers to fill out the applications and Chrysler should have just sold them at the dealerships. Especially when the factory isn't going to be making a large number of them.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, it's a shame that the drag racers no longer have the character they used to back when it was more about the sport and not the money... But I guess this is one of the reasons that drag racing is still playing second fiddle to the roundy rounders.. But once again who cares...
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Re: Is this car a FAKE?
[Re: donscuda]
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07/16/09 02:07 AM
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As I said before, these cars were built for the racers to have and race, NOT to sell... If the racers are just trying to make a buck, and not care about the sport it's really sad, and they shouldn't be involved in the sport or the hobby in my opinion. There was a lot of engineering along with all the countless hours in negotiations with the NHRA to make these vehicles class legal.
All the hoopla on who's gettin' one, who's not, cars showing up on ebay  . Garlits will be on the 'pro lawn chair/make an exibition pass tour' (I'd bet the farm he NEVER actually races a national or divisional event). In the mean time the Cobra Jets are out in force racing and Calvert already scored a national event win in one.
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