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Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations #371109
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The latest Mopar Action has a 69 Coronet with 3.23 gears running low tens. The details on the engine are very thin, 512 cube stroker 400 with stage VI heads and a small roller cam with an operating range of 2k to 6k rpm. The builder states the biggest mistake most guys make is overcamming.

Can you guys with fast tall geared cars let the rest of us know some details of your cars?

Thanks

Tim

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371110
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Not a 10 second ride, but a member on here (forphorty) has a 68 Satellite with a more or less stock bottom end 440, Id guess compression at around 9 to 1, basically stock 452s, 292 Comp Hyd cam, SD intake, 750 DP, 9.5 inch Dynamic,(Had a GER in it at the time of the 12.30s) with 3.23s that has been 12.30s. Im sure with a little head work it go in the high 11's. He might chime in, but the motor has upwards of 50K on it, I think it has more than that on it.....


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: Von] #371111
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I didn't have it on a track yet, so time slips are not available, but my 440 in a 383 block (438 cu inches) was a 9.5:1 unported 906s edelbrock 850 carb w/electric choke, and a comp XE275HL cam, TKO-600 and 3.21s with 28.5" tires, and it would roast the tires in first gear from a 20 mph roll...no idea what it would run in the quarter though--but with that much torque, some sticky tires, I'm sure it could have pulled off a low 13 second 1/4 mile (it's a 4200 lb truck!)

now it's a 4.56 gear'd rear, aluminum eddy heads, holley 750HP carb, and 505hp at the crank, and I HOPE it's a 12 second truck--gotta get it track legal first though--drive shaft loops, etc.


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Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371112
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All steel 69 Coronet ? ... low 10's ...I doubt it.

I like the short-gears .... I have a 62 Belvedere with a 440 and a 2.76 gear.

Based on running a Bud of mine ... the car used to run 12.60's ... now it should run 12 teens or so.

Iron Manifolds, thru the muffs ...and get 17 mpg on the hwy.

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: dOrk !] #371113
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Theres a member on here with a 4100lb 67 charger that runs 11.60s with a 3.23.BDS67?

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371114
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i believe the story also mentions a 175 shot of nitrous.....also the owner/driver is mike daurity.....lots racing experience....

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: Von] #371115
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Not a 10 second ride, but a member on here (forphorty) has a 68 Satellite with a more or less stock bottom end 440, Id guess compression at around 9 to 1, basically stock 452s, 292 Comp Hyd cam, SD intake, 750 DP, 9.5 inch Dynamic,(Had a GER in it at the time of the 12.30s) with 3.23s that has been 12.30s. Im sure with a little head work it go in the high 11's. He might chime in, but the motor has upwards of 50K on it, I think it has more than that on it.....


hey You got it almost right Von, except 906s and had an old Torker on it for my best et. 12.35, 106, 1.69 60ft. SD intake picked up about 1 mph but no et improvement. compression is prob 8.5 i guess. TRW 2266 pistons.

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: RemCharger] #371116
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Theres a member on here with a 4100lb 67 charger that runs 11.60s with a 3.23.BDS67?


I think he has stock manifolds and a stock torque convertor too.

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: forphorty] #371117
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Mine is nothing impressive at all...but given the combo I guess its OK...

All steel 70 Challenger in full street trim.

3,23 gears.

28" tall STREET radial tires (crappy run of the mill 255 tires).

4 speed.

Home built stock stroke 360, 9:1 CR, BONE STOCK 360 heads with factory 3 angle valve job NO PORTING, NO BLENDING, Edelbrock PERFORMER intake (not RPM), 600cfm eddy carb, small 15/82 el cheapo headers, full exhaust, lunati vodoo cam

Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 268/276
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 226/234
Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .494/.513
LSA/ICL: 110/106
Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
RPM Range: 1800-6200
Includes: Cam Kit

Part Number: 60403LK


I ran 14,50

My shifting could be vastly improved though. I was very gentle not to spin them and the shifts were kinda soft too.

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371118
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Re-rung 1970 440 with a 484 MP cam and 2.76 gears and 29" tall slicks, 12.80 and 11.63 with a 175 shot while leaning out top end..



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Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371119
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Quote:

The latest Mopar Action has a 69 Coronet with 3.23 gears running low tens. The details on the engine are very thin, 512 cube stroker 400 with stage VI heads and a small roller cam with an operating range of 2k to 6k rpm. The builder states the biggest mistake most guys make is overcamming.

Can you guys with fast tall geared cars let the rest of us know some details of your cars?

Thanks

Tim




I'd have to see a 3.23 geared car run low 10's to believe it. Unless the car has a ton of weight stripped off of it and running nitrous.

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My old "family sedan" run 10.51/133 mph with 3.23 gears and 28" high street radials, 4.5/4.15" naturally aspirated pump gas wedge, 9.5" PTC and manual valve body 727.
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Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371121
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gmachinedartGT has a eddie headed roller cam stroker small block in his car with a low gear 904 and 2.94's and IIRC he runs in the 12's, even though the car is setup for autocross with 18" rims....

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Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: patrick] #371122
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I will have to try and search for more details on tht 67 Charger.

Domingo, that sounds very similar to my 1st car. A 73 Challenger with a 340 which ran about the same times.

CrazyMoparGuy, what transmission details can you give me.

Jyrki, excellent! Can you tell us the cars weight and some more engine information?

Tim

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My old truck (LWB 85 D100 w/493") ran 11.73 w/3.31 gear and short slicks.

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371124
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CrazyMoparGuy, what transmission details can you give me.





Sure.
A crappy stock tranny! lol It was rebuilt probably 5 years before going in the Lobster, but it was nothing special. Stock converter too.


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Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371125
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my times are not super fast but heres my set up....

i have a 75 plymouth duster with a 69 383 high performance,
the motor was stock (running good compression on seven cylinders with number 4 at 63 psi)stock manifolds both intake and exhaust,
at the time i ran with a 650 holley double pumper, slightly modded, w/ ram air
727 torqueflite trans with a stock 1600 stall and stage two shift kit,
3.23 gears open 8 1/4 diff,
and the rear tires were BfGoodrich p 255/60/R15
car weight with myself 3450lbs
and my time was....
14.319 w/ 60 ft @ 2.183 and reaction .080

in the last couple weeks ive striped the 906 heads off which had a sunk in exh valve on number 4 and have fixed up a set of 452's as a summer replacement, i got the trans rebuilt as it was slipping in second and partially third, im waiting for a 2600 stall converter, and im planning on throwing on a smaller tire (my old size P225/60R15
(the tire size made a 1 second difference in my car i ran a 14.9 with an eddy and the tires when i threw on the other tires with the same carb it dropped to 16.0, then i introduced the holley, and ram air and ran the 14.3.....)

soo long story short im hoping on running mid to low thirteens when i get everything buttoned up in the next couple weeks

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: sthorvictor] #371126
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Not real fast,really boring to drive. My Duster street car,SB with approx 375cfm carb running 11.50's@116mph leaving in 2nd gear,about the same as a 2.3 rear gear set and 28" slicks.

Re: Fast 3.23 or higher geared combinations [Re: MadMez] #371127
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Fastest door car I've seen with hwy gears is a 78 Mailbu one of my friends has, it was running 8.50's@155 with a glide and 3.89's, he set it up for powertour a few years back with a TH400 and 3.00's, the same converter from the glide and went 8.7's@158- he lost about 1/10 in the 60' but pulled harder up top.

It's kind of a sleeper since it looks like a typical 80's Pro street but it has a Oddy 540" with an 8-71.

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Fastest door car I've seen with hwy gears is a 78 Mailbu one of my friends has, it was running 8.50's@155 with a glide and 3.89's, he set it up for powertour a few years back with a TH400 and 3.00's, the same converter from the glide and went 8.7's@158- he lost about 1/10 in the 60' but pulled harder up top.

It's kind of a sleeper since it looks like a typical 80's Pro street but it has a Oddy 540" with an 8-71.




Sounds like he needs another gear

Don't "G machine dart" run 12s with a 2.94 and a small block or something?


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