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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: QuickDodge]
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06/26/07 07:05 PM
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Marq or 69 DartGT. Any idea on how long it took to repolish the paint?
I am not sure where the 'repolish' is beginning from in your question. I have had two 'repolishing' points in the life of my paint job.
The initial repolish occured when all the painting was finished and the final wetsanding was done to that final coat of paint. I then went with my Porter Cable 7424 and used rubbing compound. I believe I worked each panel about 1 hour each. I really wanted to go for the maximum smoothness that I could achieve. I probably took about 15 minutes per panel when applying and buffing out the Carnuba wax that went on.
The second repolishing happened about 10 months after the car was initially finished. The car had sat outside all winter, exposed to the cold, the ice and the wet. I pulled out the trusty Porter Cable 7424 and used it to apply carnuba wax. I worked it for about 10 minutes per panel. Once the wax hazed I just buffed it out. Technically this was more of a 'waxing' stage then a polishiing stage ( but some people don't differentiate between the meaning of polishing and waxing ).
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: DavidP]
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06/26/07 07:16 PM
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Marq]
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06/26/07 07:32 PM
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I have been watching closely the logs on the web server where I posted the pictures of the McLaren. It is AMAZING how many other web sites and message forums are linking to those pictures. One nice thing is that the server logs tell me exactly where the linking to my pictures are coming from. So I have been following some of those hyperlinks back to where the pictures were inserted into other discussions about the roller painting method. What I discovered is that there are literally hundreds of other discussions going on about the roller painting method. But what I ENJOYED the most was seeing all these other vehicles that are being roller painted and blogged on those other web sites. More Mustangs, trucks, sports cars, Mopars, Fiats, British sportscars etc... the number of works in progress and finished projects is truly amazing. This message thread could easily quadruple in size if all those other bloggers pop in and post up their pictures here... So even though we have a farily large number of works in progress and finished here.. we may only be the tip of the iceberg of 'roller painters anonymous'  This 'roller' thing may be spreading even faster than we might have originally thought... I can't wait til some of them come home to roost here and share their pics... and folks just might be amazed 'what' are being painted out there... .
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Gusteve]
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06/27/07 01:21 AM
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I just got in from the garage and I kid you not, I had 8 different groups of people stop by just to see the rolled paint on the vette. It was worth all $12 I got into it so far... At work yesterday, I had to keep showing the co-workers the pictures on the computer. One of them just painted his son's Jeep and had $380 into the basic paint alone. He had to stop by yesterday to see this process. (I think I got him hooked for next time.) Steve C, I was just on the HotRod.com web site and they had a non-roller paint guy complaining. Quote from a post:
Quote from the non-roller:
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"good paint job for $98" is an oxymoron."
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And the reply:
"Think so? If you're ever in the L.A. area, stop by the shop and take a look.
You'd be surprised how many don't believe it was roller painted, and believe me this was an overly rushed job. It could be done much better.
Naysayers, please re-read the feature. Never once do we assert that this is a show-winning paint job, or one that looks like basecoat/clear. At best, it looks like 60's-70's era basic enamel. (But, I once paid $1500.00 buck for a professional acrylic enamel paint job.) Is it perfect? Not even close. Have I seen worse paint jobs that cost 40 times as much? Absolutely.
Why did we use a $200.00 Falcon? Because there were no plans to ever make the car worthy of a 2-$3000+ paint job (Sound like any of your projects?). Its tentative future was simply as a fun, economical little driver with minimal investment. It had rust, it was faded, heavily oxidized, cracked and peeling, and it didn’t match all over. Now, it’s a very respectable looking car that actually gets compliments and inspires people to share stories. Not bad for $25.00.
What’s the worst case scenario? If you don’t like it, just sand it off.
Anyone that wants to give it a shot and has questions is welcome to send me a PM. I’ll answer to the best of my abilities."
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Christopher Campbell
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I hope everyone is having as much fun rollin it on like I have. He also e-mailed me:
Looks cool so far, I even like the unbuffed finish. I think it's great that you're getting your son out there and getting his hands dirty on his first car- he'll appreciate it much more when it's done. I should know, that's what my dad did with me.
Good luck with the paint job, just remember to keep a coat of wax on it and it should last just fine.
He is a pretty cool guy... - Roadster Source: ( http://forums.hotrod.com/70/1455267/general-topics/get-a-good-paint-job-for-98/page2.html )
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: 69stanger]
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06/27/07 09:15 AM
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I think most critics of the method are of the opinion that spraying expensive paint is the only way to get a durable long lasting finish on a car. They are stuck in a paradigm.
Upon reading the Hot Rod thread linked above, I completely agree. With some folks, there seems to be a level of insecurity with the thought of spending less than a couple grand for a paint job. I'm terribly sorry if I've threatened anyone's manhood, but I'm thrilled by the possibility that with little more than patience and hard work, my finish has the potential to look as good as theirs.
I'm fully aware that it's not for everyone... but at least by trying it, I'll have earned the right to knock it unlike many of these paint-spraying naysayers.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Gusteve]
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06/27/07 09:57 AM
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So even though we have a farily large number of works in progress and finished here.. we may only be the tip of the iceberg of 'roller painters anonymous'
This 'roller' thing may be spreading even faster than we might have originally thought...
Its really amazing to think of how far this has gone. This has washed over the internet to the point that in a year or so your average Joe might not look at you cross-eyed when you say you are going to roller-paint your car.
And I think all of us originally had that "WHHAATT??" attitude when we heard about it.
One other thing that is also amazing is the "brand-neutral" attitude of everyone on these threads for 300+ pages. There's VERY few places that enthusiasts of any make and model can come together, show their ride, and not receive any bashing because they have a brand X or brand Y vehicle.
We all share a common goal and a common bond, regardless of the ride (or even refrigerator, going way back) that we are painting.
On a side note - my 70+ year old father-in-law (who lives in the boonies of northern Michigan) last week declared he was going to start roller painting stuff in general with "Boat Paint". "I heard you can just roll it on and it levels out and it dries hard, and looks like it was sprayed".
I about fell off my chair when he said that.
Roll On!
amen to that 
i get on average about a kabillion (that's a new # that exceeds 10000000000000!!!) emails a day, and i answer all of them!!!. People add me on msn, and my photobucket acount maxes out every week, steady for the last year. I did a google search for "$50 paint job" and the results are huge, it's all over the net!!! You'd also be supprised of the number of local people that email me asking me to paint their cars, i get about 2 a week, all type of cars, i've even been offered several times to have my flight and accomondations paid for to paint other cars in the US!!!
I also get alot of people telling me that i should have made a dvd, and sold it online, and that i could have made a killing. But it's not why i shared this with all you guys, it's to help everyone out, and that there is allways a different way to get awesome results without having to spend huge $$$$ to get them. I do everything myself, interior, headliners, tranny's, engines, paint, everything i can to save $$$ and spend more on parts, and i drive the crap out of my cars.
I think it's cool to see all the brands of cars, i'm a car guy, not a mopar nut (sorry moparts  ) but it's true, i like all cars (typically older ones). Heck i sold my charger, and i'm having a blast with my speedster, and my bug. But i can apprecieate all the other brands even though i may not own one, i still like talking to the owners about our old cars, how we brought them back from the dead, and saved another old car without breaking the wallet. There's nothing (at least to me) that's more gratifying than driving a car YOU built, and YOU painted down the road. Not a car you HAD painted for you, that does nothing for me.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: DavidP]
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06/27/07 11:04 AM
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For some of the Canadian members ...
The best price I've seen is the Canadian Tire Simoniz 7-in. Sander & Waxer, at $99.00, with the 'Porter Cable'polishers going for $199.99 & $219.99
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/subcat...D=1182888256756
Has a lot more power than I'll ever use ... 
It needs a lil more power still. It's a decent price. I wouldnt call it a steal...
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Marq]
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06/27/07 11:05 AM
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For some of the Canadian members ...
The best price I've seen is the Canadian Tire Simoniz 7-in. Sander & Waxer, at $99.00, with the 'Porter Cable'polishers going for $199.99 & $219.99
Has a lot more power than I'll ever use ...
You are in Toronto. It was the Toronto Corvette owners that tipped me off about the REFURBED Porter Cable random orbital sanders that could be picked up for $125 at the 'repair depot' for warantee repairs of Black & Decker/Dewalt and Porter Cable products. Based on the info from the Toronto Vette owners.. I found one of the Porter Cable repair depots here in Ottawa on Laperriere Street. I picked on up for $125 and it came with a one year full replacement warranty.
So the hint we gave people a fair while back was to try to locate the nearest service and repair warranty place to their location and see if they can get their hands on one of these 'refurbed' unit.
You can locate the nearest 'warranty and repair' depot for servicing the Porter & Cable polishers by going to the P & C web site and look around it for where the nearest repair and warranty depot is to your location. Possibly you could cheat by opening up one of the P & C boxes at a regular retail store like Home Depot and checking the warranty and servicing information they provide on the pamphlet in the box
It was worth also noting that not all units returned to the refurb shop are 'used' or 'abused'. The chap at the location in Ottawa was telling me that most of his units were simply returned from the retailers because parts had been taken from the boxes - and so they send them back to these guys. They simply bag the units and add the missing parts - and put them out for sale at their repair depot.
Since you are in Toronto you definitely have access to the refurbs down there. The only problem might be that all the Vette owners in Toronto are also snapping up the refurb units down there
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I'm gonna have to try this out! Thanks Marq
BTW: Roll on paint lovers, ROLL ON! 
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: 69chargeryeehaa]
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06/27/07 06:31 PM
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I came upon this method thru "StumbleUpon" not sure how many of you know what that is but it's a Web community of sorts. Anyway I Stumbled on the page that one guy made detailing how he rollered his Corvair with this method. Thankfully he was grateful enough to Charger and others to add a link to this thread for me to continue my research. That was back when Part 1 was still going. I have completed the paint on the Probe but ran out of time on Vacation last week to finish sanding and buffing her. I'll post pics when she's all done. But Like all of you I know it works and it works awesome!! The parts that are done are beautiful!! One of the things I find so really cool about this thread is that most of the veterans of the process still hang around and keep up to answer questions. You guys are all so awesome for taking your time to help the newcomers get it right. Myself included. Following your lead I intend to hang around as well. I feel there is nothing more powerful here than to see those with experience giving honest and on the money answers to the questions of the new guys. Roll On Brothers!!!!
BTW: Quite a while back one of you guys came up with a "Fraternal Order of Rollers" graphic. If anyone knows a way to get that graphic turned into a vinyl sticker I'd love to see some made for us to put on our rides. I'd obviously be willing to pay for one if someone can get them made.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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06/27/07 07:07 PM
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Okay, I'm buckling under the pressure(in my own mind) to post a couple pics of the "done" parts. here's how the old Probe Looks "so far".
Looks very nice Probe! What paint did you use?
Any bigger pictures? I love it!
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
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06/27/07 07:18 PM
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Okay, I'm buckling under the pressure(in my own mind) to post a couple pics of the "done" parts. here's how the old Probe Looks "so far".
Looks very nice Probe! What paint did you use?
Any bigger pictures? I love it!
That, My friend, is good Ol' Rustoleum Professional!! I'll post some bigger pics when she's all finished up. I had these on the computer here at work to show my coworkers.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: 69chargeryeehaa]
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06/27/07 07:35 PM
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I also get alot of people telling me that i should have made a dvd, and sold it online, and that i could have made a killing. But it's not why i shared this with all you guys, it's to help everyone out, and that there is allways a different way to get awesome results without having to spend huge $$$$ to get them.
The idea of a DVD is interesting, but it would probably cost a lot more to create something that was not painful to watch than you might think..
I think we should get the guy that did the www.rollyourcar.com website to add a link for a paypal account link for you for donations. (Sorry dude - I forgot who you were and the thread is too big to find you)
How many of us have saved THOUSANDS of $'s because of this, or had rides that would never have looked good because we couldn't afford it.
I, for one, would be happy to make my $50 paint job a $70 paint job by donating 20 bucks. I think that everyone that's rolled their car, stood back, and went "Holy Crap!" would feel the same way.
Obviously, 69chargeryeehaw, you don't need to respond to this, but I think we all owe something to you more than "great idea! thanks!".
With the wide variety of people here from other forums, the link would be posted everywhere.
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Roadster_wa]
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06/27/07 08:28 PM
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  My second till last coat, tomorrow needs to come quicker so I can finally finish and put my last coat on the body... then I have to wait a few days to make it shine! (aka time for rest finally)... Then I need to start all over again ripping off the doors and doing major bodywork and lot of painting.. yay =/
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread.
[Re: Gusteve]
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06/27/07 08:50 PM
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I also get alot of people telling me that i should have made a dvd, and sold it online, and that i could have made a killing. But it's not why i shared this with all you guys, it's to help everyone out, and that there is allways a different way to get awesome results without having to spend huge $$$$ to get them.
The idea of a DVD is interesting, but it would probably cost a lot more to create something that was not painful to watch than you might think..
I think we should get the guy that did the www.rollyourcar.com website to add a link for a paypal account link for you for donations. (Sorry dude - I forgot who you were and the thread is too big to find you)
How many of us have saved THOUSANDS of $'s because of this, or had rides that would never have looked good because we couldn't afford it.
I, for one, would be happy to make my $50 paint job a $70 paint job by donating 20 bucks. I think that everyone that's rolled their car, stood back, and went "Holy Crap!" would feel the same way.
Obviously, 69chargeryeehaw, you don't need to respond to this, but I think we all owe something to you more than "great idea! thanks!".
With the wide variety of people here from other forums, the link would be posted everywhere.
My
I've actually professionally produced dvd's for customers, but i have my own business in computers/networks, and spent the first 8 yrs or so of my career as a millwright, repairing industrial CNC's and automated assembly equipment. So producing a dvd is right up my alley, but i'm not looking to profit from this at all, i'd be happier with a pat on the back!!!! That's what the true brotherhood is about, not $$$$.
Ok i'm done being a woman, before i cry i'm gonna go have a beer!!!!!!!!!!  
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