Thin head gasket ?
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What are everyone's thoughts on using this gasket alone as a head gasket. I need to replace a copper head gasket leaking oil so I thought this is dead soft and basically a thin copper gasket so if I painted it real well both sides with that sticky permatex stuff why would it not seal??? Course if it did not I could change it back out and go with 1009. Need more compression http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/felprohehesp.htmlNot afraid to try so thought's?? oh block is o-ringed and I don't intend to put rings back in ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif)
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Re: Thin head gasket ?
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It says to use it only as a shim for a conventional gasket??
I've used dead soft copper with block O rings and Coppercoat but never without the rings, don't see any advantage to copper without the rings.
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Re: Thin head gasket ?
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I use the M/P steel shim (.020) gasket on my eddy headed 440. Used lots of Permatex copper spray sealer. 11 to 1 comp. Been two years now with no problems.
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Re: Thin head gasket ?
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Thanks guys I may try it anyways with sticky paint on Permatex looks like a thin soft copper gasket to me. Just .020 instead of .032 to .062?? I'll order them with extra 1009 gaskets and keep a close eye on it any hint of problems and back off!! Thanks again Of course once I get them I can get a good look at them ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/whistling.gif)
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Re: Thin head gasket ?
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If no reciever groove then to me the gasket is not thick enough to have any place for the o-ring to go....
If a reciever groove, then there is the room for the o-ring so I would think it would be fine....no different than any other copper head gasket....
But I have not stayed in a Holiday Inn recently..so take it as you may.
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Re: Thin head gasket ?
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If no reciever groove then to me the gasket is not thick enough to have any place for the o-ring to go....
If a reciever groove, then there is the room for the o-ring so I would think it would be fine....no different than any other copper head gasket....
But I have not stayed in a Holiday Inn recently..so take it as you may.
He said he wasn't going to use o-rings.
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Re: Thin head gasket ?
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Reason I ask for advice is just that to get advice, ideas and a sounding board for my ideas. then that gives me pause for thought. Gaskets won't be hear for a week to ten days so I'll be back and forth on this till I decide it's time to put the heads back on. Now had I thought about filling inn the groves last year I probably would have had fel pro 1009's on and no leaks! LOL!!! course i get an idea in my head ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/image_294343.gif) wonder about it ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif) get advice ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tsk.gif) then more ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif) thanks again all
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Re: Thin head gasket ?
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FWIW, back in the day, before you could purchase such things, I made a pair of head gaskets out of .020" dead soft copper (I'll never do that again) and used them on a 6-71 blown 426 wedge with block O rings, worked just fine. Without O rings I wouldn't even consider it.
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Re: Thin head gasket ?
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My feeling is they may have their compression dint right were my o ring grove is. and this quote "Mr. Gasket head gaskets are ideal for stock rebuilds and mild performance applications" Now if i try and fix ring groove with labmetal maybe since what ever I do is short term?? more ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif) and ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif) I pull shifts in this thing at 7400 and it kicks the shifts about 7600 but present compression is 10.5 with a bigish roller would like 11.5 to one will mill the heads some more while they are off. NO power adders so not to much heat!
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