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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: Bull1tt] #342557
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There is no vin stamping on the pan rail but I did find what looks to be a vin stamp on top of the bell housing right where the trans lines up? Was there something peculiar to the 68 cars?




That's where it's supposed to be on a '68 engine.




What he said , that's the 68 location , if the car has an auto trans the trans is stamped in the same location as the engine , 4 speed will be stamped down on the side same as 69 up ...

Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: JohnRR] #342558
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There is no vin stamping on the pan rail but I did find what looks to be a vin stamp on top of the bell housing right where the trans lines up? Was there something peculiar to the 68 cars?




That's where it's supposed to be on a '68 engine.




What he said , that's the 68 location , if the car has an auto trans the trans is stamped in the same location as the engine , 4 speed will be stamped down on the side same as 69 up ...




'68 (rr short block) engine/VIN location - driver's side/top/rear


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The EAD pad from the above block, pretty angled and the HP and "2" in an odd location?

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two different "3"'s in the 383 and date in the above EAD

Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: west] #342561
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The warranty replacement in my 69 GTX was NOT stamped at the dealer with the VIN, it was left unstamped (had dealer service records with the car).


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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: DAYCLONA] #342562
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On a 68 engine where the vin is stamped on the upper bellhousing area by the oil pressure unit, would they have used the same machine for the vin , even though that area is curved? It is not a flat pad like on post 68's. Or, was it stamped by hand?

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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: A12] #342563
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The EAD pad from the above block, pretty angled and the HP and "2" in an odd location?




Theories on the different font ??


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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: smac77] #342564
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my #,s 383 formula S ragtop .. NOT THE SAME

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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: ConvertiBee] #342565
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I'm certainly no expert, but I've seen more than a few VIN pads over the years. If I were looking at a car to buy, and I saw the pad stamped that way, I would immediately think "fake", and base my buying decision on it being a non-numbers matching car.

...and (I believe), a 1971 block would have the FULL vin on it.





also the bevel on top of the pad is about twice as deep as any other block i have seen..

Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: A12] #342566
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The EAD pad from the above block, pretty angled and the HP and "2" in an odd location?




That does not look out of the ordinary for a 383 and I think that is the location of the 2 for second shift stamp , I'm pretty sure I have at least one like that .

Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: 472 R/T SE] #342567
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yes it was true where I worked but no many ever bothered




I'll chime in on that too- I worked for Ma Mopar since the 80's and we never bothered. Already getting shorted on the labor time to do the job and you want me to do what?

BTW- The vin on the original trans from my Duster is screwed up, off one digit in the middle.

Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: gdonovan] #342568
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Love this post, getting to really know the diffrent aspects of block identifiction. I feel more educated reading all the info.

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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: migsBIG] #342569
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Here is another question. Did they use the same spamping equipment for other parts on the vehicle like the cowl, radiator support and other ereas?

Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: Chargerfan68] #342570
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On a 68 engine where the vin is stamped on the upper bellhousing area by the oil pressure unit, would they have used the same machine for the vin , even though that area is curved? It is not a flat pad like on post 68's. Or, was it stamped by hand?

Thanks,
Greg.




I think the 68s were stamped by hand. I bought a numbers motor/auto tranny 68 hemi charger 10 years ago. The drivetrain was out of the car, but untouched to the point of original plug wires. Car had been of the road since the 70s. I wiped the oil/grime off to check the numbers, the block only had 5 numerical digits, it was missing one of the middle numbers. Both tranny and motor numbers were really sloppy, I really got the impression they were done by hand and not machine like later years.

Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: N9671X2] #342571
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I think the 68s were stamped by hand. I bought a numbers motor/auto tranny 68 hemi charger 10 years ago. The drivetrain was out of the car, but untouched to the point of original plug wires. Car had been of the road since the 70s. I wiped the oil/grime off to check the numbers, the block only had 5 numerical digits, it was missing one of the middle numbers. Both tranny and motor numbers were really sloppy, I really got the impression they were done by hand and not machine like later years.




Take a look at the distributor pad on a '66-'67 Hemi. Definitely hand stamped.

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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: 6PakBee] #342572
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My opinion on the font is that the hardened steel would break and they would slide a new number on and the maufactuer of the stamp might have been different.


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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: ph23vo] #342574
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the "original" block for my 68 runner is weird also...I have knowledge back to 1970 of the car and motor wasnt ever changed from then on...the block has a mid 66 casting its stamped D383 on the pad no other numbers except but has 2 numbers with an x over them. the julian dating puts it oct 67 assy date and the dates in the bearing inserts are 9 67 my car has a spd of 1 68 so in the assy window, i cant find a vin stamp on it anywhere so who knows, but it had all the correct parts intake exh heads pan etc and all dates are right in line with the engine...is it assy line engine, got me...


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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: west] #342575
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Were the blocks, trans, rad. support, and the trunk seal lip all stamped at the same time? I have thought about this before, but never saw anything posted anywhere. You would think this would make sense, because I assumed they would make a "stamp pad" up with the numbers on and slam it into all needing areas at once, then change the next # for the next car and just keep going. Maybe I'm totally wrong also.

Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT [Re: A12] #342576
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The 3's and 4's being different is no big deal. It is from the numbers in the stamping wheels being changed in the factory due to damage or wearing out and the replacement number is different..

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