Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: mccannix]
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06/14/09 08:43 AM
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build date
that's the CASTING date , it was assembled on 3/5 according to the ID pad , but very interesting , NO MODEL YEAR on the ID pad , I wonder when that stamp was applied ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stirthepot.gif)
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: JohnRR]
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06/14/09 04:36 PM
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That is kind of the point I am (maybe) trying to (possibly) make sorta (did I cover my rear enough yet? ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) ). All the Service, Warranty and over the counter blocks I have seen (around 10 or so - which I'm sure is not every one ever sold :^) ) Do not have the Series Letter on them (D,E,F,G etc.). That is why the one with all the production car stuff on top (E440, HP etc) and no VIN poked on the pad intrigues me.
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: TONY_DAGOSTINO]
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06/15/09 08:44 AM
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how do you know its a warrenty short block + not just an over the counter block that was assembled?
a short block SHOULD have assy date info on the pad + a tag or hole on the rh side of the block typically above the forward coreplug where the rivet was holding the tag in place
ding ding ding .... WINNER
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT**PICTURE UPDATE**
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06/15/09 09:03 AM
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Here is my take on it...its a restamp. Why, whell, the stamping of the blocks and engines were done by a machine that had wheels where you set the number/letter combination. So you would set 0B12345 and stamp the engine and transmission. Then set to 0B12346 and do the next (assuming sequential VIN for this argument sake). So if the person setting the wheels dropped the third digit slightly (say the "1" was a little lower, then the same error would be in both places. Also, since the wheels were in a line, all the letters should be lined up. Thes are all over the place. I have seen the whole stampings crooked, but the relative spacing and alignment is always the same. This is also why you see transposed numbers show up in both places usually. Lastly, the font is off. I am no expert, but have seen a few VIN stampings, and know that that font is not right. Just my
Ok, I am going to throw all this out the window. I cleaned out the garage and looked at the three blocks and two transmissions I have. The one four speed shows a similar font and crooked alignment like your engine stamp. The transmission has been with me since '84 so I doubt it was restamped. The VINS all look like the examples given here with repsect to font, alignment and depth of pad machining (all of mine look to be original). The auto transmission stamping looks like VIN stamping. So who knows.
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: stateline]
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06/16/09 08:20 AM
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how do you know its a warrenty short block + not just an over the counter block that was assembled?
a short block SHOULD have assy date info on the pad + a tag or hole on the rh side of the block typically above the forward coreplug where the rivet was holding the tag in place
ding ding ding .... WINNER
Sorry boys , I worked at a Chry. dealer and installed it is the car ,bought it when the car got wrecked of coarse I cant prove that now , I dont have a pic of me doing .
Or any paper work to back it up ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif)
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: FJ5_Fish]
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06/17/09 08:32 PM
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Different "4's" Yes - I have seen that a lot on original matching motors as well.
Here's an original stamping with mis-matched "4's" that might leave you scratching your head for a while... Tony D'A. should recognize it pretty quickly...
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: QuickSilver]
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06/18/09 06:45 AM
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There is no vin stamping on the pan rail but I did find what looks to be a vin stamp on top of the bell housing right where the trans lines up? Was there something peculiar to the 68 cars?
That's where it's supposed to be on a '68 engine.
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