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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: Mopar_Mike]
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03/31/11 02:03 PM
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Buy 1967 Cars (see below) We Don't Need No Stinkin VIN!!
That's right , easier to pass off as matching numbers , all you need to do is find a good dated block and such ... kidding ... 
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: Diego (not Ted)]
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03/31/11 02:05 PM
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Out of curiosity, seeing a learning opportunity, I emailed the guy asking him why there were two sets of numbers on the tranny.
He said, "first set is serial # the second set i think is dates or line numbers"
Then I asked, "Shouldn't they be in the same font?"
He said, "thats how they came"
So then I asked, "From my experience, they were the same font. You sure it's #s match from the factory?"
He replied, "yes i had it a a mopar show"
I think I still have a lot to learn.
Yes you do have a lot to learn , but at least you want to learn. The trans stampings are correct , the part number/build date/sequence built fonts is always smaller than the VIN font , the trans in that auction is CORRECT factory stampings , the VIN on the block is NOT .
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[Re: ph23vo]
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03/31/11 04:03 PM
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: Paul Jacobs]
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03/31/11 07:29 PM
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That means your block is a restamp-the B is not even close in size to the 3, not to mention they aren't the same font! Sorry, that's prob not what you want to hear!
I don't see how you can be so sure. 
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: pacifica]
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03/31/11 11:01 PM
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That means your block is a restamp-the B is not even close in size to the 3, not to mention they aren't the same font! Sorry, that's prob not what you want to hear!
I don't see how you can be so sure.
I'm not trying to come across as a know it all  - I base my statement on the 25 years restoration experience, the 50 Mopars I've owned, over 100 I've dismantled, and over 10,000 pictures to document original cars. Remember, I work on these EVERY day, so you pick up on details of parts very quickly-just like you probably know your particular job inside & out.
There are plenty of originals that are quirky, but this one is very obvious when studied.
Cheers 
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: Paul Jacobs]
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03/31/11 11:28 PM
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That means your block is a restamp-the B is not even close in size to the 3, not to mention they aren't the same font! Sorry, that's prob not what you want to hear!
I don't see how you can be so sure.
I'm not trying to come across as a know it all - I base my statement on the 25 years restoration experience, the 50 Mopars I've owned, over 100 I've dismantled, and over 10,000 pictures to document original cars. Remember, I work on these EVERY day, so you pick up on details of parts very quickly-just like you probably know your particular job inside & out.
There are plenty of originals that are quirky, but this one is very obvious when studied.
Cheers
I know a little about these cars as well and I must say that is the worst restamp I think I have ever seen.
Hi Paul, hope all is well.
....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: BS27R1B]
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04/01/11 12:24 AM
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What about this one,does the stamping look ok "factory" or? Block made:1-7-70
The two stampings are so different there is no way they are right. Transmission looks good, engine stamp is a mess.
they used many different letters and numbers obviously..however once you posted the trans it was clear there are 2 diff stamps used.. also the block is painted thick so that makes the block harder to see.. the trans indeed does look right.. dan
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: Morty426]
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04/01/11 12:46 AM
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trans
You got two different 3s there
Good eye , the engine was not stamped at the same time the trans was stamped judging by the difference in fonts .
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: JohnRR]
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04/01/11 01:33 AM
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I think the 1B159 block looks ok but the three last numbers locks wrong.
I have a few more pictures if someone is intrested..
Owned in the 90`s by Ed Briggs.The car was restored 2002-2005 by 2 brothers in Fort Wayne,Indiana. Tom and Jeff Ruble. When the car was finished it was bought by Gary S,work/worked on Atlantamusclecars.Gary sold the car in 2006 to a guy in Romeo,Michigan.
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: 71redcuda]
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04/01/11 01:39 AM
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more.2780930-340-? Its a 1971 (E55) 340 car.
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Re: VIN Stamping: MYTH or FACT
[Re: 71redcuda]
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04/01/11 03:09 AM
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That means your block is a restamp-the B is not even close in size to the 3, not to mention they aren't the same font! Sorry, that's prob not what you want to hear!
I agree with Paul on this one, USUALLY the complete stamping (numbers spacing, alignment, etc.) should match very closely if not exactly, but the actual letter and number fonts should ALWAYS match in size and shape, they were each stamped moments appart by the same guy with the same stamping tooling on the production line.
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