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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: Jeffaary]
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05/29/09 01:18 PM
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I don't see MoPar leaving NHRA completely....even after the restructuring. I am sure there will be cutbacks, but my feeling is that AJ is safe. Fiat is a big player now, and they are very involved in motorsports in Europe, so they must see the value in it.
I really think you'll see massive cutbacks in GM's involvement, though, as the Feds are now the majority owner, unlike the Chrysler deal, and the Feds (our) financial stake is much higher.
I would think the NASCAR teams are in bigger trouble, as the money they recieve dwarfs anything spent in drag racing.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: nhramark]
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05/29/09 04:26 PM
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 Rule not by law, but by someone who was elected illegally and knows whats good for 'ALL' the people and is going to give it to them.
?? How was he elected illegally?
Lets not get into the politics..... thank you
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
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05/30/09 10:52 AM
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Thay are probable going to take the latest technology from the GM and Mopar motors and apply it to a Ford based motor.
It was designed from a clean sheet of paper by someone not involved in either program.
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: BradH]
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05/31/09 02:12 AM
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I hate to say this, but the other day while looking at the cover of a Jeg's catalog w/ a picture of Jeg Jr's Pro Stock Cobalt, I decided I have NO interest in the class anymore. The cars aren't "factory hot rods", the core technology isn't production-based, the number of teams that can afford to field a competitive entry are disappearing because of the economy...
I can't relate to it anymore. I'd rather go watch the local 1/8-mile heads-up street car racing.
Tell me what is "stock" about Pro Stock. They are basically the same car with different decals. I doubt if you could count the number of factory parts on one hand,(that includes body parts) What they should do is make a class with the Challenger,Mustang, & Camaro. Make the teams develop the stock block engines that come in these cars with a 400 ci limit.Only allow bolt on body part replacement,and let them have at it. I think there would be a shortage of tickets a most national events. Just my 
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: b1dartsport]
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05/31/09 03:53 AM
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I hate to say this, but the other day while looking at the cover of a Jeg's catalog w/ a picture of Jeg Jr's Pro Stock Cobalt, I decided I have NO interest in the class anymore. The cars aren't "factory hot rods", the core technology isn't production-based, the number of teams that can afford to field a competitive entry are disappearing because of the economy...
I can't relate to it anymore. I'd rather go watch the local 1/8-mile heads-up street car racing.
Tell me what is "stock" about Pro Stock. They are basically the same car with different decals. I doubt if you could count the number of factory parts on one hand,(that includes body parts) What they should do is make a class with the Challenger,Mustang, & Camaro. Make the teams develop the stock block engines that come in these cars with a 400 ci limit.Only allow bolt on body part replacement,and let them have at it. I think there would be a shortage of tickets a most national events. Just my
Sounds like the old Super Modified days of the 70's. Mini pro stocks, I loved em!!  And how about 4 speeds with a CLUTCH. You listening Herb, jr???????? Chrysler did't have much to go with but I remember Ricky Smith and Don Bowles ( Roush) in Ferds.
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: b1dartsport]
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05/31/09 05:07 AM
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Tell me what is "stock" about Pro Stock. They are basically the same car with different decals. I doubt if you could count the number of factory parts on one hand,(that includes body parts)What they should do is make a class with the Challenger,Mustang, & Camaro. Make the teams develop the stock block engines that come in these cars with a 400 ci limit.Only allow bolt on body part replacement,and let them have at it. I think there would be a shortage of tickets a most national events. Just my
As much as I agree with this idea it would have to go back to the old weight break days and how much time and money would be spent to achieve parody? Also you have to wonder if the current pro stock monster created can go back to pre-six second ET's and hold interest of todays fans.
It would stink, but to run a program like this they may need to run them at a 1000 foot like the fuel cars, if only to wash out the ET compairson to the current pro stockers. Drag race fans are much more into the performance of the cars than the NASCAR and IRL crowd who are only interested in their favorite driver.
I guess I'm just a 52 year old guy wanting the days of pro stock to return to it's coolness and not be so God-awful boring.
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: dthemi]
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05/31/09 08:25 AM
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I hate to say this, but the other day while looking at the cover of a Jeg's catalog w/ a picture of Jeg Jr's Pro Stock Cobalt, I decided I have NO interest in the class anymore. The cars aren't "factory hot rods", the core technology isn't production-based, the number of teams that can afford to field a competitive entry are disappearing because of the economy...
I can't relate to it anymore. I'd rather go watch the local 1/8-mile heads-up street car racing.
I really liked the days of prostock when the Dodge Daytona looked almost exactly like a street version. Even better yet, I totally enjoy watching old video footage and looking at photos of the original prostock cars from 1970 to about 1972.
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: slantzilla]
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05/31/09 11:55 AM
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Follow the posts on here about the Missile and Sox cars and tell me what was "Stock" about those cars. 
Yeah, I know, the cars had lots of things slightly altered, but still really looked like something sold at the dealership. This is especial true for the 72 on up cars, but the 70 and 71s were not. All the pics that I have of the early cars show stock wheelbases and grille widths.
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: pinkduster]
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05/31/09 12:00 PM
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I hate to say this, but the other day while looking at the cover of a Jeg's catalog w/ a picture of Jeg Jr's Pro Stock Cobalt, I decided I have NO interest in the class anymore. The cars aren't "factory hot rods", the core technology isn't production-based, the number of teams that can afford to field a competitive entry are disappearing because of the economy...
I can't relate to it anymore. I'd rather go watch the local 1/8-mile heads-up street car racing.
I really liked the days of prostock when the Dodge Daytona looked almost exactly like a street version. Even better yet, I totally enjoy watching old video footage and looking at photos of the original prostock cars from 1970 to about 1972.
Roger that .... these days those cars look like they were dropped-off at Jim Head's shop and given a Bat-Mobile body-job !!  ....
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Re: Larry Morgan Switching To Ford - Mopar Out Of NHRA?
[Re: pinkduster]
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05/31/09 12:05 PM
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I like the big blocks, but the rest of it is totally out of hand and I have almost completely lost interest.
Personally, keep the big blocks but somehow keep a curb on it to use readily available pieces.....so that a sharp guy can get out of the box stuff and somehow keep competitive. Limit head work, have them use out of box pistons, rods, cranks.....I don't know how you'd do it, but put some limits on it. Two carbs on a manufactured intake....no million dollar sheet metal jobs.
Have them use production bodies...Challengers, Mustangs, and even the new Camaros. No big funky spoilers, carbon fiber bodies. Manual transmissions tear things up, but make them a max of four forward gears.
Pro Stock cars today are about as exciting as watching paint dry. No bouncing around....no wheelstands.....
SS/AH is best show in the NHRA circuit. There is a reason for that.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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