Re: Does anybody repro the daytona nose cones?
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05/28/09 10:44 PM
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Depends on if you want steel or fiberglass. Ted Janak is the man for steel parts. He also sells glass noses
http://wingedwarriorbodyparts.com/
or Dayclona
http://wingedwarriorbodyparts.com/
and there's another guy I believe down in the south (Mississippi?) but his name escapes me now.I'm sure others will chime in
Hmmmmmm,.............Ted Janak, in Texas, makes a fiberglass nose cone, always has,
Dayclona,( That's me) in Massachussetts.......makes a fiberglass nose cone
Jack McGaughey, ...in Georgia, makes steel nosecones
Gene Gregory, in Indiana, ...makes steel nosecones
All of the above are the "Preimer" vendors for wingcar parts, each haveing their pros/cons......there are other vendors making wingcar parts, but they are the ones usually avoided.....
Be aware the wingcar market is very small, if your going to invest in a steel replica cone, your tooling return will probally never be seen?.......and if you think people complain about repro sheetmetal fitment problems now!,....wait until you deal with a few wingers!
Current market price of repro steel cones is $5K-$7K,.......Glass cones run from $600 for junk,....to $1500 avg for a quality cone
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Re: Does anybody repro the daytona nose cones?
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I could certainly do better than 5k for a repro steel nose cone.
Im just wondering if it would be worth it. I would plan on using a NOS nose cone as a pattern.
Domingo,
The cones were steel, and they were hand made on kirksite molds, back in the day at a rate of about 16-20 cones a day with a 12-16 man crew,....many of the wingcar parts were handmade because of their limited production, and the bean counters influence,......so this equates to a lot of "sloppy" parts/fits,.........keep that in mind when working with NOS wingcar parts,....I've found out the hard way, that NOS wingcar parts are perhaps the worst line rejects to deal with, if your going to base your repros off of deminsionally,......a seasoned (off the car) original part is a much better canidate,.....if you feel you can offer a steel repro for a much better price on the market than $5K, it's your choice if you want to step in the waters,......but keep in mind, it's a very small market
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Re: Does anybody repro the daytona nose cones?
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1500 clams for a nose ? ... guess what part I will consider making directly when my production gets on-line !
On that site ....why are there no published prices ?
Eric, the site with no prices, I assume your taking about Janaks site,.......if you get a catalog from him, prices are listed, they change with the weather with him..........the reason for higher priced fiberglassed cones on the market, such as mine, or Janaks, are that they fit!, all flanges are there for all of the necessary bulkheads, light buckets, valance tabs, latch tray attachment, etc, and they are done in one lay-up, no pcs added later, to crack, or split under driving/road stress, therefore a much more complex moulding process to achieve a 1 piece construction, more set-up time, more "dress" time to trim out a peice, plus premium fiberglass supplies/materials equate to more costs associated to the finished product, my cone usually takes 40 hrs actual man hrs. from raw start(mold prep) to ship ready.....the cheaper fiberglass cones on the market, suffer from poor fit/shape, little to no flanges, poor lay-up, or choice of materials, construction, etc, and the ablilty to use factory, repro parts from other manufacturers,.....if your going to enter the winger market, there's only two ends to the market $1.98 wingers....or high end wingers, no in between exsists in this market,.....I didn't make the rules, just they way it is.......plus when you start a "wing" endeavor, most, if not all customers want the corresponding componets to go with your offerings,....because there's not many places to turn to for parts that interchange with other vendors offerings,.....wingcar part suppling has a way of snowballing your plans for production.....
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Re: Does anybody repro the daytona nose cones?
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Re: Does anybody repro the daytona nose cones?
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Re: Does anybody repro the daytona nose cones?
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Re: Does anybody repro the daytona nose cones?
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Looks good ..... just curious -- why white gel-coat?
So your 10 pc mold bolts together? ... with pins and bushings ?
Eric,
I can tint the white gel-coat to the customers color choice, within reason, black, gray, yellow, red, orange, etc for a favorable color underlayment depending on their finished car color, seeing the nose will be prone to road/rock chips,.....I use a premium marine UV stabilized Gel-coat versus the generic "gray" gel-coat, buy it by the drum crap that offers no UV protection to the mat underlayment
My mold is assembled using nylon pins for alignment, and nylon nuts/bolts for EASE of disassembly,.....if you know what I mean
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Re: Does anybody repro the daytona nose cones?
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1500 clams for a nose ? ... guess what part I will consider making directly when my production gets on-line !
On that site ....why are there no published prices ?
Doc, do you actually make parts? in the 10yrs i have been on here i have never seen anything you have done, just "i can make that" do you have a company or?
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